The Gun Thread

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Reliability is a big deal, revolvers are tops, just pull the trigger, it takes a positive, intentional action.


I agree on that if we are talking about our father's or grandfather's revolvers.
The previous generation of common purchases were high quality and some makes were known to take the best trigger jobs.

I taught firearms safety, basic use and marksmanship classes. I had to include the caution about decisions when buying handguns for self defense. In spite of cnc machines there's been an inconsistency in quality over recent years. We live in a time with more choices than any in history.

Example, a lady wanted to attend a gun show with a couple of her friends.
She was told by one guy to get an overpriced S&W .38 because it was Uber reliable. Another friend suggested a low use surplus German P6 that had extra mags a holster and acceptable trigger which could be improved considerably while maintaining reliability. She could rack the slide and pull the double action trigger without tremble or too much exertion. It cost less than the Smith. She was asked if she could get assistance talking down the over full retail tag.

She went with the S&W.
She went to the range and wanted to learn how it functions. She had no problem with others she tried, including the civilian version of the Sig. She enjoyed the ease of use, grip size, recoil impulse and trigger pull.
She was very accurate with it.

We spent a lot of time with her new Smith.
She had a lot of difficulty keeping the rounds on target and a number of reliability issues.
Those were probably issues that could be remedied with some work and practice. One thing of common note were the rough cylinders.
If she bought an older vintage of the exact same model, it would have been a joy for her to use.

Like a lot of things, vintage is sometimes better.
☕😊👍🏻

Tim Sundels on his 44 mag purchases.
 
YES! Thank you for bringing this up, there are very easonabler prices out there, snubby Smith's for under $300.
38 Special can be loaded hotter than 357
blessings:)(y)
 
  • Like
Reactions: HealthAndHappiness
YES! Thank you for bringing this up, there are very easonabler prices out there, snubby Smith's for under $300.
38 Special can be loaded hotter than 357
blessings:)(y)

Those are classics that I've pulled the trigger on some. They've been around for generations for a reason. I just was disappointed with that example that caused the lady extraction issues and hang ups you didn't previously see with the proven design. I'm no S&W armorer, but it seemed like it would take some polishing and perhaps a trigger job to get it up to the reliability and accuracy of what we are used to. I like those older Smiths and Colts. Even though I prefer classic SemiAutos, those classic DA revolvers bring a smile to my face.

Maybe I already said it, but Alex Jones had a gun collection and videos of him with Ted Nugent, 50 bmg, etc....choices.

On a show last spring he was getting death threats and one of his top staff was murdered. Do you remember that?
He said that with all his options, he drew his S&W 38 snub and publicly warned the bad guys that might be planning something. I was surprised, but that one you mentioned was his first choice.
 

The double spring design of the charter arms made for rimless ammo that eliminates moon clips is something I'm not familiar with. Sounds like a great idea.

I was just talking to another friend yesterday about this topic and Jerry's world record with a 9mm revolver.

 
S&W had a 9mm revolvern that had a star wheel that held the rimless cartridges in, they gave up after a couple years as it was too expensive to produce, Charter Arms star wheel is available for just a few dollars if replacement is ever needed, they really figured it out.
 
This new 270 is supposed to be better against body armor than the 308, at range...which apparently the troops have been having problems with, using the 5.56.... you likely know a lot more about that than I do...

It probably was a good idea at the time when we believed that infantry was a dying breed. We now know it isn’t and they have equipped us with soft guns. That is what we get when the people in command have never been in combat.
 
While I truly enjoy shooting my snubs, I'm just not (yet) as consistently accurate with them as I am my Smith Shield 9mm...
Single action, I am... double action, I'm still more consistently accurate with the 9's I carry. Both the 9mm and the snubs are WAY more than adequately accurate for any defensive use, though, so I might just be nit-picking.
 
The old revolver motto I enjoy is " we prefer shooting a 6" over a 4", but if I have to carry it all day I would rather carry a 4" than a 6".
Sight radius makes a difference, but most self defense distances are about 15 feet max?
Putting a S&W snubbie in a Ransom Rest produced surprising groups for a pastor friend of mine.
Love how I can pop the irresponsible dog owners pooch in the keister with a wax bullet to quietly encourage it to stay away.:giggle::);)(y):unsure:
blessings
 
  • Like
Reactions: HealthAndHappiness
Yes, they are plenty accurate... but double action trigger pulls can really move you off target... it takes a lot of practice to become smooth enough to not throw the occasional flier off target. Add stress from a lethal encounter, and it makes it worse.
 
Knew some ww2 veterans who were given point shooting training.
They got really good at it. The supporting theory being when we point at something we are right on it, the eye-hand coordination works this out. Should be a help with self defense requirements.:)(y):unsure: