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Well I don't agree that being water baptized removes sin. My understanding is that ONLY the blood of Christ removes our sins. That being said, I have had that debate too many times to care to have it again. I am water baptized and spirit baptized, so good to go.

Yes, many things get twisted but like I said, I am not NOT into having another debate about it. Thanks! :)

I thank God for His Spirit and the fact I can and do pray in tongues. Has made all the difference in my life.

Got it, when JESUS filled me with HIS spirit it changed my life.

That is why I'm so bold sharing HIS word, if they had the same experiace as we did it would change theirs alos.

Wonder what those 120 felt in Acts 2:4, WHAT WAS THAT, well that's what I felt anyway.

Thank you for being you.
 
Got it, when JESUS filled me with HIS spirit it changed my life.

That is why I'm so bold sharing HIS word, if they had the same experiace as we did it would change theirs alos.

Wonder what those 120 felt in Acts 2:4, WHAT WAS THAT, well that's what I felt anyway.

Thank you for being you.

"bold sharing HIS word"?
More like obnoxious sharing your opinion,
Ouch!

But I trust you saw where I credited you with helping with the website.
I amended the part about Actsists several times because of wanting to address your views,
which were new to me.
 
"bold sharing HIS word"?
More like obnoxious sharing your opinion,
Ouch!

But I trust you saw where I credited you with helping with the website.
I amended the part about Actsists several times because of wanting to address your views,
which were new to me.

Just because I've exposed your lies does not mean I shared my views, you can't show my anywhere that I shared my views.

I can see why you don't like me, which is good with me.

I'm not the one who makes statement and GOD'S word that is not true, you should focus on your walk with JESUS.
 
I like most of what you have to say. Romans makes it very clear...that is if anyone can truly understand Paul. He speaks just like the Talmud speaks and his words are even parallel to many statements made in the Talmud and that is because he was a student of Rabban Gamliel.

Let me break this down to you.

Kosher Jesus is Rare: If you want to preach a 3 in 1 god, or the Torah is garbage or replacement theory jesus then not only are Jews correct in rejecting that jesus, but Jesus himself would reject that Jesus because that isn't him. Thankfully, G-d has so much grace to the Non-Jews, that after so many years, the Catholic church is falling apart and Non-Jews are awakening to some understanding of the importance of Torah/ "The Law" That Paul clearly states is of great importance, but without faith is meaningless. Which all Jewish authors agree...but its a challenge.

Billy Graham: In a 1958 crusade he pierced the hearts of everyone when he said, "Judas who was with Christ for 3 years, who was on Jesus Team, he was one the 12, but he was covetous and Judas was not saved...that should cause everyone to fear...". Who says any Christian or Jew has Jesus??? Not even Paul was so bold and arrogant to claim he had salvation because its full life of work...how many people have fallen and my G-d spare us from falling!

There is more to say but if you don't understand the flow of Romans which is deeply complex and comes with from a Jewish background best to be humble and say I don't know and I am happy to be a Non-Jew and live faithfully.

Your not wrong about the letter to the Romans.

That letter is so complex and deeply contextual that nearly everyone misunderstands Romans.

Chapter two through to chapter eleven primarily describes why Israel failed.

Without any doubt the letter to the Romans is a foundational letter regarding church doctrine.

Context, context, context.
 
Good morning
I consider myself to be a Truthseeker as well. Very early in the learning though. Recently left a legalistic-based church. But I find it helps to connect to other members of the global Body of Christ. Hoping to search for Truth with others.

I like hearing about people that inquire and end up leaving a church organization.

Without that external input no one would ever be able to see the error in their own church.

Not an easy thing to do if you have family and friends in the former church.

Well done.
 
God is not doing anything at your behest. I think he should stop calling you a liar but my sentiment would be the same. You don't answer questions, you pretend no one asked you a question, you do not believe in the spiritual gifts and have told me you believe you have 'personal' gifts that are just as good as the ones given by God through His Spirit.

yeah. and that's just off the top

That is disobedience to the Lord's commandment (1 Corinthians 14:37).

The ministries and gifts of the Holy Spirit are critical to the Christian Church and the Christian life.

Anyone who does not accept (1 Corinthians 14:37) is definitely not Sola Scripture.
 
Ditto. I bet I am righter. See you in heaven to collect.

If you do not adhere to Sola Scripture then you cannot be a winner.

Paul stated in his letter to the Corinthians (1 Corinthians 14:37) that the ministries and gifts
of the Holy Spirit. Are valid and applicable today and even more important today than in the past.

That perfect letter written late in Paul's life instructed the Corinthians to seek the gifts.

If you reject this then, "But if anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized."

So the scripture itself instructs us not to recognize your posts!
 
Just because I've exposed your lies does not mean I shared my views, you can't show my anywhere that I shared my views.

I can see why you don't like me, which is good with me.

I'm not the one who makes statement and GOD'S word that is not true, you should focus on your walk with JESUS.

I love you, but I do not like your animosity, name-calling, judgmentalism, pejorativeness, quarrelling, divisiveness, etc.
Plus I think your opinion about WB stinks!
 
I love you, but I do not like your animosity, name-calling, judgmentalism, pejorativeness, quarrelling, divisiveness, etc.
Plus I think your opinion about WB stinks!

Sir, you can think anything you like.

The only thing I said about you was you were a liar.

Why did I do that?

Is it my fought the things you say are not true?

Put the blame where it belongs.

I NEVER SHARED MY OPPINON about water baptism, I ONLY shared GOD'S WORD.

How long has it been, since you siad something that was not true and I asked you to prove it???

Since then how many more things have you said that was not true?
 
I love you, but I do not like your animosity, name-calling, judgmentalism, pejorativeness, quarrelling, divisiveness, etc.
Plus I think your opinion about WB stinks!

So what bad spelling OOOO I'M SO IMBARRSSED.

WHO CARE'S, statement is true but spelling is bad.

FYI, one would think you would be happy since the my spelling has improved!!

Can you answer these questions.

WHY DO YOU SAY THINGS THAT ARE NOT TRUE?

Do you think they are, but when someone like me challenges you to LOOK in HIS WORD to back them up and you can't do you see they are not true then?

Do you know to look in HIS word?

Who do you answer to?

Do you care?
 
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So what bad spelling OOOO I'M SO IMBARRSSED.

WHO CARE'S, statement is true but spelling is bad.

FYI, one would think you would be happy since the my spelling has improved!!

Can you answer these questions.

WHY DO YOU SAY THINGS THAT ARE NOT TRUE?

Do you think they are, but when someone like me challenges you to LOOK in HIS WORD to back them up and you can't do you see they are not true then?

Do you know to look in HIS word?

Who do you answer to?

Do you care?

Not to you or Eli, which is why I don't care about your judgmental opinions.
(1Cor. 4:3-5)
 
Do you know you have made false statements?

How is pointing them out judgmental?

Because y'all judge falsely, failing to take the plank out of your eye,
so that you might understand the reasons for my interpretation of WB.
You might say that you disagree with my reasoning--as I do to you,
but calling me a liar is tantamount to calling me a fool (John 8:42-44),
which puts you in danger of going to hell (per Matt. 5:22),
and because I love y'all, I do not want you to suffer that fate.
 
Got it, when JESUS filled me with HIS spirit it changed my life.

That is why I'm so bold sharing HIS word, if they had the same experiace as we did it would change theirs alos.

Wonder what those 120 felt in Acts 2:4, WHAT WAS THAT, well that's what I felt anyway.

Thank you for being you.

Aww...nice of you to say so. Back at you :)
 
That is disobedience to the Lord's commandment (1 Corinthians 14:37).

The ministries and gifts of the Holy Spirit are critical to the Christian Church and the Christian life.

Anyone who does not accept (1 Corinthians 14:37) is definitely not Sola Scripture.

And that is why I no longer bother with that person. You cannot have an honest discussion with him. I just read a post of his wherein he said that God even loves satan. He really needs to be shown the door.


First: 1TM 2:3-4 - "God our savior wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth." This verse is in the same vein as RM 5:8, "God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us." MT 5:44&48 teaches that God even loves His enemies, which would include Satan.
 
Here it is again with the reference to show I'm not making up this crazy statement of his:

First: 1TM 2:3-4 - "God our savior wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth." This verse is in the same vein as RM 5:8, "God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us." MT 5:44&48 teaches that God even loves His enemies, which would include Satan.

Its from his 'Hermenetics' thread. He can spell the word but he does not have a clue what it actually means. :cautious:
 
Matthew 5:44&48, "Love your enemies,... Be perfect, even as your heavenly Father is perfect."
Romans 5:6&8, "...Christ died for the ungodly... God demonstrates his own love for us in this:
While we were still sinners, Christ died for us."
1Timothy 2:3-4, "God our Savior wants all people to be saved..."
Job 1:6, "One day the angels came to present themselves before the Lord,
and Satan also came with them."


IOW, God loves everyone including His enemies, the chief of which is Satan.
This is an example of doing hermeneutics, something my enemies have no clue about.
but God loves them through me anyway.:love:
 
Because y'all judge falsely, failing to take the plank out of your eye,
so that you might understand the reasons for my interpretation of WB.
You might say that you disagree with my reasoning--as I do to you,
but calling me a liar is tantamount to calling me a fool (John 8:42-44),
which puts you in danger of going to hell (per Matt. 5:22),
and because I love y'all, I do not want you to suffer that fate.

You must think I take pleasure in calling someone a liar? I will help you, I don't I also gave you plenty of chance to prove you were not.

You have a choice to make, prove your comments correct or REPENT.

You did nothing.

You mand MANY comments that you can not prove in GOD'S word to be true.

So they are called lies, and I wasn't judging you I was telling you what you were and still are.

GOD does not need you to interpret ANYTHING.

Sad you feel I'm in danger of Hell fire and you still can't see how much in error you are in.

I am here for the same reason as you EXCEPT I share HIS word the reason I picked the name "ouch" is I know some people will not accept the TRUTH.

Here is the truth, if your NOT REBORN you are NOT GOING TO HEAVEN.

How to be reborn according to scripture, believe, repent, get baptized in JESUS name to remove your sins and still need JESUS to fill you with HIS spirit.

I know I'm going against all of your reasoning and I don't care about your reasoning.

GOD'S WORD IS CORRECT, YOUR OPINION IS NOT it's really that simple.

IF I WANT to go to Hell then I would just agree with you or not say anything and let you keep going down the wrong road, isn't that LOVE?

A JESUS follower telling the truth will never lead someone to Hell.

I feel bad for you, but I can't change your mind that's between you and JESUS.
 
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Because y'all judge falsely, failing to take the plank out of your eye,
so that you might understand the reasons for my interpretation of WB.
You might say that you disagree with my reasoning--as I do to you,
but calling me a liar is tantamount to calling me a fool (John 8:42-44),
which puts you in danger of going to hell (per Matt. 5:22),
and because I love y'all, I do not want you to suffer that fate.

What is "old"?

Your lies may be? I have no idea when you started them.

Or someone pointing them out?

Or trying to get you to back them up with scripture?