Searching For Truth Seekers!

[pinebeach]

Ditto is as loving as the thing being copied/mirrored.

If I were unloving, I would have bet demeaners will not be in heaven for me to collect.
However, I love everyone hope we all satisfy GRFS. I know that I try to go silent rather than quarrel.

There is no if. You are not the judge of who is saved and who is not. You made the comment and it was anything but loving. You are anything but silent. One more thing: works do not save.

 

[pinebeach]

What exactly is the point of this thread? and has the op spoken on it since creating the thread?

No he left because GWH took it over. And ruined it. Per the usual.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

What exactly is the point of this thread? and has the op spoken on it since creating the thread?

A judaizer who was looking for proselytes started it and may have realized it wasn't fertile ground and left.

 

[NightTwister]

With respect, you are setting yourself up as though you have some sort of "advanced knowledge and understanding".

Every single time I've encountered such a person, they are either off in the weeds of error, or they know far less than advertised. Self-promotion just is not a thing in the Christian faith. God makes room for people when He wants to promote them.

Gnosticism for fun and prophet!

 

[GWH]

Oh I see so the op has left then? as for your endeavor to be fair the reason no one has taken you up on the offer is mainly because you are not exactly well liked by a lot of people trust me I have been there but this is how cc operates. I mean I like you just fine but many here do not as I am sure you have realized by now

And honestly speaking truth is rarely ever recieved well so if you desire to speak truth be prepared to have few if any who will recieve it.
Now I have not followed much of your posts as of late so I do not know what has been said but it seems to have ruffled up some feathers in this thread and then I saw there was a thread made entirely to address you in particular I have to say that is quite impressive if you have a thread made entirely to address you in particular you are either doing something right or something very wrong

Well, after 55 years of believing that God was teaching me, I doubt that I am more wrong than those haters,
but because I am a truthseeker I invite loving reproof aka constructive criticism, and I suspect the
reason even loving Christians reject my offer is because either they are content with milk (in terms of Hebrews 5:11-14)
or else are just too busy or are not led to do so by the HS. The website contains no jokes or devotionals, because
the Lord motivated me to study how to answer the questions atheists ask, which is boring for most.

Only since joining CC at this late stage of life have I encountered animosity by those who claim to be fellow Christians,
which is discouraging and could be depressing, but I have been encouraged by friendly folks such as yourself while learning
greater humility and love for enemies (Matt. 5:44).

 

[Omegatime]

Oh I see so the op has left then? as for your endeavor to be fair the reason no one has taken you up on the offer is mainly because you are not exactly well liked by a lot of people trust me I have been there but this is how cc operates. I mean I like you just fine but many here do not as I am sure you have realized by now

And honestly speaking truth is rarely ever recieved well so if you desire to speak truth be prepared to have few if any who will recieve it.
Now I have not followed much of your posts as of late so I do not know what has been said but it seems to have ruffled up some feathers in this thread and then I saw there was a thread made entirely to address you in particular I have to say that is quite impressive if you have a thread made entirely to address you in particular you are either doing something right or something very wrong

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Michael is in Israel and 7 hours ahead of us?

 

[pinebeach]

Only since joining CC at this late stage of life have I encountered THOSE WHO KNOW THEIR BIBLE BETTER THAN I DO. ALOT BETTER
which is discouraging and could be depressing, but I have been encouraged by friendly folks such as yourself while learning
greater humility and love for enemies

Fixed it for you

 

[GWH]

Fixed it for you

I bet my Bible commentary is better than your demeaning dogma.

 

[Blain]

Well, after 55 years of believing that God was teaching me, I doubt that I am more wrong than those haters,
but because I am a truthseeker I invite loving reproof aka constructive criticism, and I suspect the
reason even loving Christians reject my offer is because either they are content with milk (in terms of Hebrews 5:11-14)
or else are just too busy or are not led to do so by the HS. The website contains no jokes or devotionals, because
the Lord motivated me to study how to answer the questions atheists ask, which is boring for most.

Only since joining CC at this late stage of life have I encountered animosity by those who claim to be fellow Christians,
which is discouraging and could be depressing, but I have been encouraged by friendly folks such as yourself while learning
greater humility and love for enemies (Matt. 5:44).

Well do as the spirit leads and if people do not want to take up what you have to offer then at least you planted the seed.

 

[GWH]

Well do as the spirit leads and if people do not want to take up what you have to offer then at least you planted the seed.

Good advice. Offering commentary on Scripture as I do in our website is common practice,
and none of the commentary I offer contradicts orthodox Protestant Christian belief,
but only dogma that has been controversial for many years, such as tulip and tongues.

 

[Ouch]

No he left because GWH took it over. And ruined it. Per the usual.

No he left because GWH took it over. And ruined it. Per the usual.

LOL, he did the same on the thread I started.

HE IS THE MAN, in his own mind.

GOD'S WORD vs. man's opinion like GWHs.

Post # 380

GWH said:
I have started 14 threads, but the only one with my initials on it is this one, so I adopted it,
and I have answered all questions, but you refuse to learn, so I have given up and
referred you to the website I bequeath to all fellow TSers: <truthseekersfellowship.com>
excerpts from which are in post #378 so that unbiased readers can check your accusations.

I believe my understanding of GW is more right than yours,
but I will not be sucked into playing ping pong ball with the demeanor denomination,
whose members have agreed with your pejorative posts on this thread plus most tulipists.

What is strange is it's post 380 and just after the bolded it says he has answered all of my questions.

Can't make this stuff up, why are we on post 380 if you did?

 

[GWH]

LOL, he did the same on the thread I started.

HE IS THE MAN, in his own mind.

GOD'S WORD vs. man's opinion like GWHs.

Post # 380

GWH said:
I have started 14 threads, but the only one with my initials on it is this one, so I adopted it,
and I have answered all questions, but you refuse to learn, so I have given up and
referred you to the website I bequeath to all fellow TSers: <truthseekersfellowship.com>
excerpts from which are in post #378 so that unbiased readers can check your accusations.

I believe my understanding of GW is more right than yours,
but I will not be sucked into playing ping pong ball with the demeanor denomination,
whose members have agreed with your pejorative posts on this thread plus most tulipists.

What is strange is it's post 380 and just after the bolded it says he has answered all of my questions.

Can't make this stuff up, why are we on post 380 if you did?

Because you ignored "but you refuse to learn", which is typical.

 

[Ouch]

Because you ignored "but you refuse to learn", which is typical.

Guess I need a better teacher.
What can you teach me?
You can teach me alot if I want to learn about you.
But when it comes to GOD'S word what can you teach me?
I asked you how to be reborn, no reply.
I asked you to back up what comes out of your mouth with HIS word, no reply.

 

[Ouch]

Because you ignored "but you refuse to learn", which is typical.

May be a good watch for you?

 

[GWH]

Guess I need a better teacher.
What can you teach me?
You can teach me alot if I want to learn about you.
But when it comes to GOD'S word what can you teach me?
I asked you how to be reborn, no reply.
I asked you to back up what comes out of your mouth with HIS word, no reply.

Okay, I will cite the replies of Jesus and Paul again for the benefit of truthseekers on this thread:

Jesus indicated GRFS in various ways, some stated in terms of faith (F) and some in terms of works (W):

From Matthew

1. Repent (4:17, F)
2. Recognize one’s spiritual poverty (5:3, F)
3. Be righteous (5:20, W)
4. Love your enemies (5:44, W)
5. Forgive those who offend you (6:14, 18:35, W)
6. Serve God (6:24&33, W)
7. Enter the narrow gate (7:13, F)
8. Do God’s will (7:21 & 12:50, F&W)
9. Hear and act (7:24, F&W)
10. Confess Jesus (10:32, W)
11. Love Jesus (10:37, F)
12. Give life to Jesus (10:39& 16:24-25, F)
13. Have no doubt (11:6, F)
14. Come to Jesus (11:28, F)
15. Learn from Jesus (11:29, W)
16. Be for Jesus (12:30, F)
17. Understand (13:23, F)
18. Be good (5:48 & 13:38,43,49, W)
19. Value salvation (13:44-46, F)
20. Believe Jesus (16:16& 21:32, F)
21. Become humble (18:3-4 & 19:14, W)
22. Forgive others (18:35, W)
23. Give to the poor (19:21, W)
24. Follow Jesus (19:21&29, F)
25. Yield fruit (21:43, W)
26. Dress appropriately (22:11-14, cf. RV 16:15, W)
27. Love God, neighbor & self (22:37-40, W)
28. Hold out until the end (24:13, F)
29. Keep awake (24:42 & 25:13, F)
30. Be ready (24:44, F&W)
31. Be trustworthy and useful (25:21&30, F&W)
32. Help Jesus’ brothers (25:34-40, W)
33. Be righteous/do right (25:46, F&W)

More from Mark and Luke

34. Accept the kingdom (Mark 10:15, F)
35. Believe the Gospel (Mark 16:16, F)
36. Receive baptism (Mark 16:16, W)
37. Be hated (Luke 6:22-23, W)
38. Lend (Luke 6:35, W)
39. Judge not (Luke 6:37, W)
40. Invite the poor to your party (Luke 14:13-14, W)
41. Use wealth wisely (Luke 16:9, W)
42. Stand firm (Luke 21:19, F)

From John

43. Be born again (3:3&6, F)
44. Come to the light (3:21, F)
45. Obey the Son (8:51 & 14:15, W)
46. Drink living water (4:14, F)
47. Heed Jesus (5:24, W)
48. Do right (5:29, W)
49. Work for the food of life (6:27, W)
50. Partake of the bread of life (6:33-35&51, F)
51. Eat the flesh and drink the blood of X (6:54, F)
52. Dwell within the truth (8:31&35, W)
53. Hate self; serve Jesus (12:25-26, W)
54. Accept Jesus’ words (12:47, F)
55. Follow Jesus’ example (13:15-17, W)
56. Dwell in Jesus and in love (15:5-10, F&W)
57. Heed his command (15:10-12, F)
58. Know God and Jesus Christ (17:3, F)
59. Believe Jesus is Christ/Son (20:31, F)

GRFS per Peter and Paul

From Acts

59. Call on the name of the Lord (Acts 2:21)
60. Repent and be baptized (Acts 2:38, cf.3:19)
61. Believe in Jesus (Acts 10:43, cf. 13:39&48)
62. Believe in the Lord Jesus (Acts 16:31, cf. 18:8)
63. Repent and turn to God (Acts 26:20)

From Romans

64. Have faith (Rom. 1:17)
65. Persist in doing good (Rom. 2:7&10, cf.3:12)
66. Obey the law (Rom. 2:13, cf. 3:20)
67. Have faith in Jesus Christ (Rom. 3:22, 26&28&5:1)
68. Confess Jesus as resurrected Lord (Rom. 10:9)
69. Call on the name of the Lord (Rom. 10:13)

From 1 & 2 Corinthians

70. Believe (1Cor. 1:21)
71. Hold firmly to the gospel (1Cor. 15:2)
72. Repent (2Cor. 7:10)
73. Examine yourself (2Cor. 13:5)
74. Aim for perfection. (2Cor. 13:11)

From Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians and Colossians

75. Do not pervert the Gospel (Gal. 1:6-7)
76. Know that we are justified by faith in JC (Gal. 2:16)
77. Through faith be baptized into Christ and clothed with Christ (Gal. 3:27)
78. Stand firm in Christ’s freedom (Gal. 5:1)
79. Do not trust in circumcision (Gal. 5:2-3)
80. Do not try to be justified by law (Gal. 5:4)
81. Live by the Spirit (Gal. 5:16)
82. Sow to please the Spirit (Gal. 6:8)
83. Hope in Christ (Eph. 1:12)
84. Believe/have faith in the Lord Jesus (Eph. 1:13-15)
85. Be saved by grace through faith (Eph. 2:8)
86. Put off your old sinful self (Eph. 4:22)
87. Be imitators of God (Eph. 5:1)
88. Strive for moral perfection (Eph. 5:3-7)
89. Live as children of light (Eph. 5:8)
90. Be wise by doing the Lord’s will (Eph. 5:15-17)
91. Put on the full armor of God (Eph. 6:11-13)
92. Stand firm for the faith of the Gospel (Phil. 1:27)
93. Continue to cooperate with God’s good purpose (Phil. 2:12-13)
94. Stand firm in the Lord (Phil. 4:1)
95. Have faith in the Gospel of JC (Col. 1:4-6 & 23)
96. Receive CJ as Lord (Col. 2:6)
97. Stop sinning and start loving (Col. 3:5-14)

From Thessalonians, Timothy & Titus

98. Have faith that produces good works (1Thes. 1:3 & 13)
99. Have faith and love that perseveres (1Thes. 3:5-10)
100. Put on faith, love and hope of salvation (1Thes. 5:8-9)
101. Persevere despite enduring persecution (2Thes. 1:3-5)
102. Believe on CJ who came to save sinners (1Tim. 1:15-16)
103. Do not pervert or abandon the true faith (1Tim. 4:1-3)
104. Do not quarrel or wander from the faith (1Tim. 6:3-5 & 20-21)
105. Have sincere faith that suffers for the Gospel (2Tim. 1:4-12)
106. Do not disown CJ (2Tim. 2:10-12)
107. Confess the name of the Lord and turn from sin (2Tim. 2:19)
108. Fight the good fight and finish the race of faith (2Tim. 4:7)
109. Have faith in the truth that gives hope of heaven (Tit. 1:2)
110. Teach the grace of God that offers salvation to all men (Tit. 2:11-15)

 

[Ouch]

Okay, I will cite the replies of Jesus and Paul again for the benefit of truthseekers on this thread:

Jesus indicated GRFS in various ways, some stated in terms of faith (F) and some in terms of works (W):

From Matthew

1. Repent (4:17, F)
2. Recognize one’s spiritual poverty (5:3, F)
3. Be righteous (5:20, W)
4. Love your enemies (5:44, W)
5. Forgive those who offend you (6:14, 18:35, W)
6. Serve God (6:24&33, W)
7. Enter the narrow gate (7:13, F)
8. Do God’s will (7:21 & 12:50, F&W)
9. Hear and act (7:24, F&W)
10. Confess Jesus (10:32, W)
11. Love Jesus (10:37, F)
12. Give life to Jesus (10:39& 16:24-25, F)
13. Have no doubt (11:6, F)
14. Come to Jesus (11:28, F)
15. Learn from Jesus (11:29, W)
16. Be for Jesus (12:30, F)
17. Understand (13:23, F)
18. Be good (5:48 & 13:38,43,49, W)
19. Value salvation (13:44-46, F)
20. Believe Jesus (16:16& 21:32, F)
21. Become humble (18:3-4 & 19:14, W)
22. Forgive others (18:35, W)
23. Give to the poor (19:21, W)
24. Follow Jesus (19:21&29, F)
25. Yield fruit (21:43, W)
26. Dress appropriately (22:11-14, cf. RV 16:15, W)
27. Love God, neighbor & self (22:37-40, W)
28. Hold out until the end (24:13, F)
29. Keep awake (24:42 & 25:13, F)
30. Be ready (24:44, F&W)
31. Be trustworthy and useful (25:21&30, F&W)
32. Help Jesus’ brothers (25:34-40, W)
33. Be righteous/do right (25:46, F&W)

More from Mark and Luke

34. Accept the kingdom (Mark 10:15, F)
35. Believe the Gospel (Mark 16:16, F)
36. Receive baptism (Mark 16:16, W)
37. Be hated (Luke 6:22-23, W)
38. Lend (Luke 6:35, W)
39. Judge not (Luke 6:37, W)
40. Invite the poor to your party (Luke 14:13-14, W)
41. Use wealth wisely (Luke 16:9, W)
42. Stand firm (Luke 21:19, F)

From John

43. Be born again (3:3&6, F)
44. Come to the light (3:21, F)
45. Obey the Son (8:51 & 14:15, W)
46. Drink living water (4:14, F)
47. Heed Jesus (5:24, W)
48. Do right (5:29, W)
49. Work for the food of life (6:27, W)
50. Partake of the bread of life (6:33-35&51, F)
51. Eat the flesh and drink the blood of X (6:54, F)
52. Dwell within the truth (8:31&35, W)
53. Hate self; serve Jesus (12:25-26, W)
54. Accept Jesus’ words (12:47, F)
55. Follow Jesus’ example (13:15-17, W)
56. Dwell in Jesus and in love (15:5-10, F&W)
57. Heed his command (15:10-12, F)
58. Know God and Jesus Christ (17:3, F)
59. Believe Jesus is Christ/Son (20:31, F)

GRFS per Peter and Paul

From Acts

59. Call on the name of the Lord (Acts 2:21)
60. Repent and be baptized (Acts 2:38, cf.3:19)
61. Believe in Jesus (Acts 10:43, cf. 13:39&48)
62. Believe in the Lord Jesus (Acts 16:31, cf. 18:8)
63. Repent and turn to God (Acts 26:20)

From Romans

64. Have faith (Rom. 1:17)
65. Persist in doing good (Rom. 2:7&10, cf.3:12)
66. Obey the law (Rom. 2:13, cf. 3:20)
67. Have faith in Jesus Christ (Rom. 3:22, 26&28&5:1)
68. Confess Jesus as resurrected Lord (Rom. 10:9)
69. Call on the name of the Lord (Rom. 10:13)

From 1 & 2 Corinthians

70. Believe (1Cor. 1:21)
71. Hold firmly to the gospel (1Cor. 15:2)
72. Repent (2Cor. 7:10)
73. Examine yourself (2Cor. 13:5)
74. Aim for perfection. (2Cor. 13:11)

From Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians and Colossians

75. Do not pervert the Gospel (Gal. 1:6-7)
76. Know that we are justified by faith in JC (Gal. 2:16)
77. Through faith be baptized into Christ and clothed with Christ (Gal. 3:27)
78. Stand firm in Christ’s freedom (Gal. 5:1)
79. Do not trust in circumcision (Gal. 5:2-3)
80. Do not try to be justified by law (Gal. 5:4)
81. Live by the Spirit (Gal. 5:16)
82. Sow to please the Spirit (Gal. 6:8)
83. Hope in Christ (Eph. 1:12)
84. Believe/have faith in the Lord Jesus (Eph. 1:13-15)
85. Be saved by grace through faith (Eph. 2:8)
86. Put off your old sinful self (Eph. 4:22)
87. Be imitators of God (Eph. 5:1)
88. Strive for moral perfection (Eph. 5:3-7)
89. Live as children of light (Eph. 5:8)
90. Be wise by doing the Lord’s will (Eph. 5:15-17)
91. Put on the full armor of God (Eph. 6:11-13)
92. Stand firm for the faith of the Gospel (Phil. 1:27)
93. Continue to cooperate with God’s good purpose (Phil. 2:12-13)
94. Stand firm in the Lord (Phil. 4:1)
95. Have faith in the Gospel of JC (Col. 1:4-6 & 23)
96. Receive CJ as Lord (Col. 2:6)
97. Stop sinning and start loving (Col. 3:5-14)

From Thessalonians, Timothy & Titus

98. Have faith that produces good works (1Thes. 1:3 & 13)
99. Have faith and love that perseveres (1Thes. 3:5-10)
100. Put on faith, love and hope of salvation (1Thes. 5:8-9)
101. Persevere despite enduring persecution (2Thes. 1:3-5)
102. Believe on CJ who came to save sinners (1Tim. 1:15-16)
103. Do not pervert or abandon the true faith (1Tim. 4:1-3)
104. Do not quarrel or wander from the faith (1Tim. 6:3-5 & 20-21)
105. Have sincere faith that suffers for the Gospel (2Tim. 1:4-12)
106. Do not disown CJ (2Tim. 2:10-12)
107. Confess the name of the Lord and turn from sin (2Tim. 2:19)
108. Fight the good fight and finish the race of faith (2Tim. 4:7)
109. Have faith in the truth that gives hope of heaven (Tit. 1:2)
110. Teach the grace of God that offers salvation to all men (Tit. 2:11-15)

If they are really TRUTH SEEKERS you shold share how to be reborn first.

So after they are reborn the spirit will lead them.

Acts 2:38-39
King James Version
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

THE PROMISE IS TO ALL.

 

[GWH]

If they are really TRUTH SEEKERS you shold share how to be reborn first.

So after they are reborn the spirit will lead them.

Acts 2:38-39
King James Version
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

THE PROMISE IS TO ALL.

Jesus and Paul just shared how to be reborn but again you ignored them.

 

[pinebeach]

LOL, he did the same on the thread I started.

HE IS THE MAN, in his own mind.

GOD'S WORD vs. man's opinion like GWHs.

Post # 380

GWH said:
I have started 14 threads, but the only one with my initials on it is this one, so I adopted it,
and I have answered all questions, but you refuse to learn, so I have given up and
referred you to the website I bequeath to all fellow TSers: <truthseekersfellowship.com>
excerpts from which are in post #378 so that unbiased readers can check your accusations.

I believe my understanding of GW is more right than yours,
but I will not be sucked into playing ping pong ball with the demeanor denomination,
whose members have agreed with your pejorative posts on this thread plus most tulipists.

What is strange is it's post 380 and just after the bolded it says he has answered all of my questions.

Can't make this stuff up, why are we on post 380 if you did?

I am not sure if we are really dealing with someone who is accountable at this point. The declarations of answering questions etc are obviously not true at all. No, we can't make this stuff up but I think he may very well be doing just that. I think, for me, that I am just going to ignore both the ridiculous posts and the scripture mashups. Nothing changes with him and I do not believe anything will, so, no point in trying to change it for him.

 

[Ouch]

Jesus and Paul just shared how to be reborn but again you ignored them.

Where did Paul tell us how to be reborn?

Where did JESUS tell us how to be reborn?

How can I ignore them if I can't find it?

Of course since JESUS told HIS DISCIPLES to wait and he would speak for them when the time came, was it JESUS who spoke throught Peter in Acts 2:38-39?

Are you going to answer those questions????

I for sure will not hold my breath waiting, I'm not expecting NOTHING from you.

 

[Ouch]

I am not sure if we are really dealing with someone who is accountable at this point. The declarations of answering questions etc are obviously not true at all. No, we can't make this stuff up but I think he may very well be doing just that. I think, for me, that I am just going to ignore both the ridiculous posts and the scripture mashups. Nothing changes with him and I do not believe anything will, so, no point in trying to change it for him.

You know, I REALLY think that's the best thing.

The only thing I think on is if he post something that goes against GOD'S word and just happens someone new sees it and I don't comment which exposes him and the new person takes him seriously that don't know HIS word, will I be held responsible?

I just challenged him with 2 more questions, I bet he will not answer them lol.

He is one strange twisted minded dude.