Odd, given the imprecatory psalms are riddled with condemnation and the desire to see one's enemies suffer.
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So picking out a thing here and a thing there justifies your condemnation...nope
It's not me. It's the Bible.
Look up the Imprecatory Psalms (Psalms 5, 10, 17, 35, 58, 59, 69, 70, 79, 83, 109, 129, 137, 140)
If you're not even going to look them up, then you've validated my point.
But if you want something imprecatory from the New Testament, check all these out.
Luke 10:10-16; Galatians 1:8; 5:12; 1 Corinthians 16:21-22; 2 Thessalonians 1:6-10; 2 Timothy 4:14; Revelation 6:10; 19:1-2). Consider the prayer request: “Thy kingdom come” (Matthew 6:10). This is to invoke divine judgment on all other kingdoms and all those who oppose the reign of God. Even Jesus used imprecatory language in Matthew 23:13,15,16,23,24,27,29, and especially 23:33. See also his use of Psalm 41:8-10 in Matthew 26:23-24 as a pronouncement of God's judgment on Judas.
Consider Peter's citation of the imprecatory section in Psalms 69 and 109 in reference to Judas Iscariot: "For it is written in the book of Psalms, 'Let his homestead be made desolate, and let no man dwell in it'; and, 'His office let another man take'" (Acts 1:20). Peter is here citing an invocation of judgment and a curse against the one who betrayed God’s Messiah.
All scripture is truthfully stated but not all scripture is a statement of truth. Cain killed Abel but one should not conclude then that God condones murder. Solomon wrote the book of Ecclesiastes but it must be obviously that a lot of it was written from a warped depressed point of view and the views that he offered from his own personal perspective may or may not be scripturally sound or positive. That is where spiritual discernment plays a factor in separating the wheat from the chaff.
Well if even Jesus used imprecatory language and Peter referenced the imprecatory psalms, maybe they aren't just a madman's ravings.
I'm not even sure what imprecatory language is as I have never heard of the word. OK, I googled imprecatory psalms and I'm now up to speed. Now, Moses said an 'eye for an eye' but then you have Jesus saying to 'turn the other cheek'. I suppose that the view of Jesus was the more spiritually mature approach in regards to retribution for perceived wrongs.
You certainly can say that because it states in the bible that God changes not, ever.
People may say that but it is not true, there is only one God and He is God of both the Old and New Testaments.
In the OT there is mentioned about not eating food sacrificed to idols. Later, in the NT it says that there is only one God, idols do not exist, so therefore it would be acceptable to eat food that was once sacrificed to idols.
Now, a weaker brother or sister may still adhere to the admonishment not to eat food sacrificed to idols even though that person is now aware that there is only one true God and idols are dead and worthless. It states that it would be wrong for a person. now aware, that it acceptable to eat the food that was once sacrificed to idols, but should refrain from doing so in front of the person who believe that it is still sin to do so as that may tempt that person to eat that food and therefore sin. I believe that this would be a classic example of scruples.
God changes not but one's understanding of God and of scripture may progress in a more spiritually sound and positive direction. In the book of Isaiah there is an explanation of spiritual growth. "Come now, and let us reason together...line upon line, precept upon precept. A little here, a little there". God changes not but what does change is the inside of our hearts in discerning what is right from wrong and a desire to change in a way that is aligned with God's will and desire. This is called repentance and eventually leads to sanctification.
I'm not saying he changed. I'm saying you've said it. Going from "eye for an eye" to "turn the other cheek."
Yes, it is an example of a more mature, positive spiritual approach to the truth in regards to retribution.
Hahaha me too, sister, me too. That was funny. I just didn't know it.
So you're saying God did change his ways and his policies. Doesn't matter if it's more mature and positive. God's ways are good, all the time.
You may not like his retributive ways, but Revelation does make it clear that people are going to pay.
Blue...i meant i didn't know i was out of order, lol, i knew that was funny what you said. Lol.
Anyway on a serious note...
We all come into agreement that there is such evil, pain and suffering that is alive and well here in this fallen world. We are not powerless, though. We have the Creator, the Restorer, the Comforter, the Healer, the Alpha and Omega. May we come into agreement now, Brothers and Sisters, and pray for the victims and their families, for the perpetrators, now and soon to be, for the ones who are broken and have dark hurtful thoughts and actions. Lord, in Jesus Name, come help us, reveal yourself. We need you in this thread and we need you in our lives. We know the darkness is daunting and powerful force, but we know you are far more powerful. Please Lord bring Your healing, love and bring mercy. Thank you, Lord...Amen.
Anyway on a serious note...
We all come into agreement that there is such evil, pain and suffering that is alive and well here in this fallen world. We are not powerless, though. We have the Creator, the Restorer, the Comforter, the Healer, the Alpha and Omega. May we come into agreement now, Brothers and Sisters, and pray for the victims and their families, for the perpetrators, now and soon to be, for the ones who are broken and have dark hurtful thoughts and actions. Lord, in Jesus Name, come help us, reveal yourself. We need you in this thread and we need you in our lives. We know the darkness is daunting and powerful force, but we know you are far more powerful. Please Lord bring Your healing, love and bring mercy. Thank you, Lord...Amen.