The cause of defending freedom to worship God and witness for Christ was just,
but the methods were stupid to the point of sinfulness, which is why we wish for mulligans.
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The cause of defending freedom to worship God and witness for Christ was just,
but the methods were stupid to the point of sinfulness, which is why we wish for mulligans.
You think post #699 was equivocating?!
The wars it cited were just causes but unjustly conducted.
If I were in charge (per the mulligans I mentioned) we would have had a tenth of the cost in money and American casualties.
Take a stand. WWII was a just war. Yes or no. Pro tip: It was a just war.You think post #699 was equivocating?!
The wars it cited were just causes but unjustly conducted.
If I were in charge (per the mulligans I mentioned) we would have had a tenth of the cost in money and American casualties.
I took my stand in post #699.
What is your stand regarding the other wars it cited?
- American Revolution (1775-1783): Unjust
- Spanish-American War (1898): Just
- War of 1812 (1812-1815): Just
- Civil War (1861-1865): Just (North), Unjust (South)
- World War I (1917-1918): Just
- World War II (1941 –1945): Just
- Cold War (1947-1991): Just
- Korean War (1950-1953): Just
- Vietnam War (1964-1975): Just
- Desert Shield/Desert Storm (1990-1991): Just
- Afghanistan War (2001-2021): Just
- Iraq War (2003-2011): Unjust
Okay, thanks for your list. I agree that the U.S. cause was just in all of the wars, but I would include the American Revolution
and Iraq War.
However, I disagree with your opinion that Matt. 5:37 applies to this topic, because it obviously refers to not swearing oaths.
If you can bring yourself to agree with that interpretation, then perhaps you would agree with my mulligans, because the ways
the wars were waged were unjust, resulting in many more deaths (especially of the good guys) than they should have due to the apparent fact that those in charge did not interpret Matt. 22:39 as meaning "love they soldier as thyself".
Yes, I just mention mulligans as a way of saying why I think the war was stupidly and unjustly waged.
Not at all. Strategy determines whether war is waged justly.
A just strategy strives to minimize casualties, especially of the good guys, by interpreting/applying Matt. 22:39 as
"love thy soldier as thyself", which is described in the mulligans.
For example, how different would the Normandy invasion battle strategy have been if the generals planning it
envisioned themselves at the front of the assault?
Yes, I know, you use the word incorrectly. That's not what it means.I use "mulligan" creatively to mean "correction for stupidity".
Just War is or isn't. There are strategies and actions that can be just or unjust during that war, but that does not change whether the reason for entering the war was just or unjust. If you conflate those it just confuses things. It would be better to be clear and separate them.
Separating the just reason/cause from the unjust/stupid strategy is what the mulligan analogy does
for those who are paying attention and are not anal about human made traditional definitions.