Predestination is misunderstood...

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brightfame52 said:
There's no word of Salvation without predestination.
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I think you have that back to front. There can be no word of pre-destination without salvation first.

If one doesn't believe and receive God's salvation they are not pre-destined to be adopted or placed into Christ or given to mature and become like Christ. Pre-destination belongs only to believers, never unbelievers.
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
This wasn't an insult this is how you've been behaving consistently.

You where told that how you where choosing to see how people have been chosen made no difference towards your point of view right at the beginning of your thread by @PennEd,

But you chose to ignore this.

He gave you sound advice in my view.

It's a shame you haven't listened
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:unsure: .................... Why so upset?

Are you are PennEd's ventriloquist?


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Thunderrr-mental said:
This wasn't an insult this is how you've been behaving consistently.

You where told that how you where choosing to see how people have been chosen made no difference towards your point of view right at the beginning of your thread by @PennEd,
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Still trying to work one against the other, aren't you?

That's communist technique.

Keep disrupting the flow.

Satan is pleased......
 
Genez said:
Still trying to work one against the other, aren't you?

That's communist technique.

Keep disrupting the flow.

Satan is pleased......
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oh Really.

Well do you know him well then,

Generally speaking you can only get to know someone well, if you know how to please them
 
sawdust said:
I think you have that back to front. There can be no word of pre-destination without salvation first.

If one doesn't believe and receive God's salvation they are not pre-destined to be adopted or placed into Christ or given to mature and become like Christ. Pre-destination belongs only to believers, never unbelievers.
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I have the right order
 
brightfame52 said:
I have the right order
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Let's check it with the scriptures.

Ephesians 1:
12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

1. hear the gospel
2. trust/believe the gospel
3. sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise for the redemption
 
John146 said:
Let's check it with the scriptures.

Ephesians 1:
12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

1. hear the gospel
2. trust/believe the gospel
3. sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise for the redemption
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I have the right order
 
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