if you where created in a true likeness to God you would be invisible![]()
As it stands for people who are not saved, there will is blocked dead.
From the dust they where born and to the dust they will return. Which includes there soul.
The spirit that returns to heaven is his spirit not yours. Thats also his will
Again they make a choice out of there capacity to think,.not there will
Once again your ignorance is outstanding
if you where created in a true likeness to God you would be invisible![]()
That's my point. God has not dealt equitably with all people. Some are wealthy, some poor. Some are educated, some not. Some have abundant opportunities, some not.
What needs to be explained? You say because God can do something, we can too because we were made in His image. God can create a whole universe by speaking, and give it life. Can we do that? No, we cannot. Therefore your premise is flawed and quite simply wrong.
I fully intend to not just have a nice day as always, but also to make the day as nice as possible for others,No, that is being created in His image. Being created in His likeness refers to our capacity as persons. People are created in both His image and his likeness.
26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
It can speak of being created in His image only in the next verse as that is the creation of Adam's and Eve's soul which is invisible. But when we are fully fleshed out (no pun intended), we are created in His image and likeness.
No it isn't blocked, it is bound to sin. They are perfectly free to exercise their will and we know God allows them to do this because evil exists in this world.
Our bodies are made from the elements of the earth, not our souls (Gen:1:27), nor our spirits (Jn.3:6). Only God can destroy the soul because only God can create the soul.
No, it is our soul (if we are saved) that goes to heaven or Torment side of Sheol if unsaved. Or soul is the invisible essence of who we are. It is our soul that makes us human. It is the container of our personality and character.
Leviticus 17:11
For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul.’
The blood of the lamb saves our souls. We don't have spirits until we are saved and God's Spirit is omnipresent so is already in Heaven as well as here on Earth.
And again you don't know what you are talking about. The will is what enables us to express our desires. I can sit here and think all day long and never make a choice. That's quite often the problem with people who are indecisive, they over-think things instead of exercising their will because they are afraid of dealing with the consequences if they are wrong.
It is obvious you do no know what a will/volition is or how it works as many people here have told you, yet you continue to persist in your error. So be it. I won't be addressing any more of your posts. You have more than enough information from me and others to correct your mistakes.
Have a nice day.
I was making a distinction between what is just and what is fair. God claims to be just. He does not claim to be fair. Justice has to do with judgment according to a standard. Fairness has to do with equity and equality. No standard is required, only that all are treated in the same manner.But none of those things have any bearing on salvation. Being rich does not give you an advantage so your point is moot. When it comes to salvation God is fair. He judges only on what is given and He gives freely to all making His rain and sun to fall upon people equally. Everyone can know God exists and is eternal, powerful and GOD. How they respond to that initial information will determine how much God will give them. He doesn't throw pearls before swine.
Oh. So the goal posts have been moved now? That's another logical fallacy...We have creative capacity. You only need look at your own work. Just because we can't create
"whole universes by speaking" doesn't deny we have an attribute of God within a limited capacity.
No, that is being created in His image. Being created in His likeness refers to our capacity as persons. People are created in both His image and his likeness.
26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
It can speak of being created in His image only in the next verse as that is the creation of Adam's and Eve's soul which is invisible. But when we are fully fleshed out (no pun intended), we are created in His image and likeness.
No it isn't blocked, it is bound to sin. They are perfectly free to exercise their will and we know God allows them to do this because evil exists in this world.
Our bodies are made from the elements of the earth, not our souls (Gen:1:27), nor our spirits (Jn.3:6). Only God can destroy the soul because only God can create the soul.
No, it is our soul (if we are saved) that goes to heaven or Torment side of Sheol if unsaved. Or soul is the invisible essence of who we are. It is our soul that makes us human. It is the container of our personality and character.
Leviticus 17:11
For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul.’
The blood of the lamb saves our souls. We don't have spirits until we are saved and God's Spirit is omnipresent so is already in Heaven as well as here on Earth.
And again you don't know what you are talking about. The will is what enables us to express our desires. I can sit here and think all day long and never make a choice. That's quite often the problem with people who are indecisive, they over-think things instead of exercising their will because they are afraid of dealing with the consequences if they are wrong.
It is obvious you do no know what a will/volition is or how it works as many people here have told you, yet you continue to persist in your error. So be it. I won't be addressing any more of your posts. You have more than enough information from me and others to correct your mistakes.
Have a nice day.
I was making a distinction between what is just and what is fair.
Lol you sound like someone who has just been locked up in the nut house claiming he's invisible.Yes... Our invisible soul was created in His Image.
After all... "Man" was completely created (bara) in His image" before any body for that soul was provided for.
For the Hebrew word "bara" means to create something out from nothing.
As for the human body? That was produced (jatsar) out from something already created! The elements of the earth.
Genesis 2 only involved providing a body (with nostrils to breath that soul into that body.)
Its the soul that it says man was created in God's image before any body was brought onto the scene.
Did you not know that?
........ by earlier referring to me as greatly ignorant? is only an insult to yourself....
.... for if I am greatly ignorant?
............... How can you land your plane safely when you do not know as much as I do, whom you claimed is greatly ignorant?
The more ignorant you claim I am?
The more highly you only insult yourself!
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I never claimed to be fair. FYI...neither am I always just.You are not being fair.
I was making a distinction between what is just and what is fair. God claims to be just. He does not claim to be fair. Justice has to do with judgment according to a standard. Fairness has to do with equity and equality. No standard is required, only that all are treated in the same manner.
Since God does deal with people differently, He doesn't deal with us according to Fairness. But since His standard never changes, He does always deal with us justly.
If you make this application to salvation, God doesn't deal with everyone equitably in salvation. Have a few people share their testimonies if you don't believe me. You may find common elements, but all will differ. However, God does deal with us all justly. He requires all of us to have perfect righteousness.
Lol you sound like someone who has just been locked up in the nut house claiming he's invisible.
God sees your heart, which means when look in the mirror, and when you see you, and whennypu look in the mirror, you are seeing you and your soul.
You are a living soul created from the dust
You where not created with a spirit.
I never claimed to be fair. FYI...neither am I always just.
You need to give me the verse that says He is. Otherwise, He isn't.God is always fair. Are you judging God now?
You missed my assumption. I didn't say we can't purpose and do. I said we can't ensure it will happen. All you did was misrepresent what I said; not prove it to be false.
Read James 4:13-15 for the understanding of what I actually said.
I have no problem with desire being an element of will. But desire alone is not will.
I asked earlier for an example of something that God willed that did not come to pass. Can you share one?
The element of performance in will is in Daniel 4:35...He DOETH His will...
Paul a man. He cannot ensure his will will be performed.
Sure. But can you ensure that it will happen?