Not By Works

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26 For at our sinning voluntarily after obtaining the recognition of the truth, it is no longer leaving a sacrifice concerned with sins,

27 but a certain fearful waiting for judging and fiery jealousy, about to be eating the hostile."

28 Anyone repudiating Moses' law is dying without pity on the testimony of two or three witnesses.

29 Of how much worse punishment, are you supposing, will he be counted worthy who tramples on the Son of God, and deems the blood of the covenant by which he is hallowed contaminating, and outrages the spirit of grace?


It begins by if we choose to sin

Then it shows what happens under Moses Law

Then it shows what happens under the New Covenant of Christ


And you turned it all into the LAW!

Insanity!
 
biker said:
26 For at our sinning voluntarily after obtaining the recognition of the truth, it is no longer leaving a sacrifice concerned with sins,

27 but a certain fearful waiting for judging and fiery jealousy, about to be eating the hostile."

28 Anyone repudiating Moses' law is dying without pity on the testimony of two or three witnesses.

29 Of how much worse punishment, are you supposing, will he be counted worthy who tramples on the Son of God, and deems the blood of the covenant by which he is hallowed contaminating, and outrages the spirit of grace?


It begins by if we choose to sin

Then it shows what happens under Moses Law

Then it shows what happens under the New Covenant of Christ


And you turned it all into the LAW!

Insanity!
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The law never saved.

Salvation has always been by faith.
 
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EleventhHour said:
The law never saved.

Salvation has always been by faith.
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I am not saying we should follow the LAW, I am saying observing it is not a sin.

Is English your first Language because the posts you make after you quote me are never actually discussing the same thing?
 
eternally-gratefull said:
Dude you have lied about me, about others and your slander is so deep you can not even fathom it. you have no idea what.
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I'm still waiting for you to answer:

When you had me on ignore, you were busy slinging insults and callow name calling at me.

Right? Do you realize how very callow that is? In fact I called you on it publicly. Own up. Why not admit and answer what I said you've done. Own it, and be a man. You were doing that, right? We weren't even in dialog, but you were still doing it, right? Right? It was callow too, correct? Answer that like a man.

Now to your accusations:

Slander? Really? Do you know what the meaning of that is? It means to make lies about a person. Now, give me some proof of the accusation or put an end to it. Deal?

I mean, actually offer some proof, not just another one of your posts accusing without evidence. Since my slander is "so deep" it should be very easy to prove it. Prove it.

Teach you prove it every time you open your mouth about me, you keep telling everyone your going to prove it, yet never do you prove your point
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I considered taking the high road, and not post your words. Don't push me, I'm trying to be Christian about it, and not prove you wrong. OK?

Now, I do have your quotes that prove:

1) I am not lying as you've stated.

2) That you do in fact teach what I said. That's why I kept posting your teachings, and finally got you to deny it as I had thought you would.

There was and is no reason for me to lie about what you teach. Why would I? My attempt is to get you to see your teachings equal merited favor.

By the way, you've falsely accused me of being chosen because I think I'm special, so that's why I am elected. That's an asinine accusation and is of course baseless.

I don't teach that. I've given you biblical answers proving it, and I adhere to unconditional election, which is further proof. Yet you overlook all that and don't have any decency to accept the fact I do not believe what you say I believe.

The very text of 1 Corinthians 1:26-31 proves and states my position, which I got from Scripture. There is no reason for God to choose anyone, other than his own purpose, counsel and will. I didn't merit it, as in your teaching, because God saw I'd choose. But of course you overlooked all the Biblical reasons I gave for my position, and instead of accepting hat came right back accusing, insulting, lying about my beliefs, putting words in my mouth.

Right? Isn't that what you did? Of course it is. Own it and man up.

i could care less if you think i am a coward, your a nobody, if you calling me a coward hurts me I have way more problems than You,
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More insults. I've offered none. You're correct, I am a nobody. The thing is that kind of behavior is what it is and I called you on it.

the fact is, you sit here and scream how DC and others slander attack and do all these things, yet you continually do it yourself, you can’t stand it when someone stands up to you. That’s why i keep doing it to expose you and every time you prove me right.

it was not me who was put in time out because I attacked people I think you need to own up to what you do, but you have yet since I met you even hinted you made a mistake, I do not think you ever will

but if you think I am gonna sit here while you continue to do what you always do, well think again.

i told you months ago to put me on ignore, you do not do it, so stop complaining when I call you out
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I sit here and scream? Wow. LOL!


Of course I called out DC. What I said is true, and, well, he is proving it is still true.

Once again: Provide the evidence I do all these things. All you are doing is repeating unsubstantiated accusations, over, and over, and over. Provide the proof.

Yes, I was put on time out for calling out your behavior and the behavior of DC. That doesn't mean what I said was untrue, it just means they put me in time out, and to me totally worth it. I assumed a price may have to be paid, but I wanted to call out your behavior nonetheless.

Why put you on ignore? I want to see what you say and teach.
 
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biker said:
READ CLOSELY:
How much worse punishment do you think will be deserved by the man who has spurned the Son of God, and profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and outraged the Spirit of grace ?”
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That is You and Me choosing to SIN! That has NOTHING to do with the Law.

It shows this person was SANCTIFIED! That is SAVED by Christ!
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See post #19 from the link below for a thorough explanation of Hebrews 10:26-29.

https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/that-hebrews-10v26-thread.189675/
 
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preacher4truth said:
I'm still waiting for you to answer:

When you had me on ignore, you were busy slinging insults and callow name calling at me.

Right? Do you realize how very callow that is? In fact I called you on it publicly.

Own up. Why not admit and answer what I said you've done. Own it, and be a man.

You were doing that, right? We weren't even in dialog, but you were still doing it, right? Right? It was callow too, correct?

Now to your accusations:

Slander? Really? Do you know what the meaning of that is? It means to make lies about a person. Now, give me some proof of the accusation or put an end to it. Deal?

I mean, actually offer some proof, not just another one of your posts accusing without evidence. Since my slander is "so deep" it should be very easy to prove it. Prove it.



I considered taking the high road, and not post your words. I do have your quotes that prove:

1) I am not lying as you've stated.

2) That you do in fact teach what I said. That's why I kept posting your teachings, and finally got you to deny it as I had thought you would.

There was and is no reason for me to lie about what you teach. Why would I? My attempt is to get you to see your teachings equal merited favor.

By the way, you've falsely accused me of being chosen because I think I'm special, so that's why I am elected. That's an asinine accusation and is of course baseless.

I don't teach that. I've given you biblical answers proving it, and I adhere to unconditional election, which is further proof. Yet you overlook all that and don't have any decency to accept the fact I do not believe what you say I believe.

The very text of 1 Corinthians 1:26-31 proves and states my position, which I got from Scripture. There is no reason for God to choose anyone, other than his own purpose, counsel and will. I didn't merit it, as in your teaching, because God saw I'd choose. But of course you overlooked all the Biblical reasons I gave for my position, and instead of accepting hat came right back accusing, insulting, lying about my beliefs, putting words in my mouth.

Right? Isn't that what you did? Of course it is.



More insults. I've offered none. You're correct, I am a nobody. The thing is that kind of behavior is what it is and I called you on it.



I sit here and scream? Wow. LOL!


Of course I called out DC. What I said is true, and, well, he is proving it is still true.

Once again: Provide the evidence I do all these things. All you are doing is repeating unsubstantiated accusations, over, and over, and over. Provide the proof.

Yes, I was put on time out for calling out your behavior and the behavior of DC. That doesn't mean what I said was untrue, it just means they put me in time out, and to me totally worth it. I assumed a price may have to be paid, but I wanted to call out your behavior nonetheless.

Why put you on ignore? I want to see what you say and teach.
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what does callow mean? :)
 
biker said:
You have no idea what you're claiming.

Who obeys the Law even under Christ and goes to Hell?
Obeying the LAW is not a sin!

Are you off your ROCKER?
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You can obey the law all you want, but when you do you exclude Grace.

Grace and Law do not mix.

‘But you go and figure out what this means: I will have mercy, and not sacrifice. No man sews a piece of new cloth on an old garment, or the patch will shrink and the tear will be worse. Neither do men put new wine into old bottles or the bottles break and the wine runs out and the bottles are ruined, but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are saved’ (Matthew 9:14-17).

Do you obey all of the Law?
 
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