Not By Works

[eternally-gratefull]

I hear you bro....I will wait for DorothyMae to explain that to me...then I will ask God to help me with discernment.

Is what E g says correct DorothyMae?

Here let her words speak

I rarely use ignore. My goal has been to present the truth on this thread to those who are still considering OSAS and tempted to take the comfort the theology brings.

She is against those of us who have security in Christ and her goal it’s to present to us her view if the truth. Not to learn from anyone or seek what we really believe

 

[EleventhHour]

I see what you post..that’s enough for me...seriously take a look at your silly behaviour on here..your like a child at times...

I am not coddling anyone...if she doesn’t believe that only born again go to heaven...then I have nothing more to say to her.
That is God’s truth.......she doesn’t understand osas.....because there is no scripture that says once saved always saved..we understand it..but she doesn’t.

So having a sense of humour is being like a child.
I love people with a sense of humour, life would be so drab without it and you know what God has a sense of humour too!

You judge @dcontroversal and others and you make yourself righteous.

Go ahead engage @DorothyMae ... she has made herself quite clear to most of us, but I guess that takes discernment.

No one who pushes a false gospel can be trusted ... end of story.

 

[jackrosie]

Another thing @EleventhHour ...what’s with dcontroversal saying he can’t say what he truly wants...because he will be banned...?

Words on a forum is what’s coming out of the mouth....think about it...ar

So having a sense of humour is being like a child.
I love people with a sense of humour, life would be so drab without it and you know what God has a sense of humour too!

You judge @dcontroversal and others and you make yourself righteous.

Go ahead engage @DOROTHY all you want ... she has made herself quite clear to most of us, but I guess that takes discernment.

No one who pushes a false gospel can be trusted ... end of story.

Again a manipulating post......you mock and belittle a member on here and I will call you out on it.
You have also judged me also dcontroversal has...you have a short memory..
Say what you like about me.....couldn’t give a fig......

 

[jackrosie]

Here let her words speak


She is against those of us who have security in Christ and her goal it’s to present to us her view if the truth. Not to learn from anyone or seek what we really believe

Ok,I see....I will wait for her to explain....

 

[Bereshith]

I think this was this person who said it is possible to work with enough vigor to be sinless, was it not? I believe I have encountered a couple of posters on this thread who stated that they have actually achieved complete sinlessness. Incredible really.

From memory this belief is known as "Sinless Perfection". Wesley believed in it but today no one really takes it seriously.

 

[EleventhHour]

Again a manipulating post......you mock and belittle a member on here and I will call you out on it.
You have also judged me also dcontroversal has...you have a short memory..
Say what you like about me.....couldn’t give a fig......

You wrongly aligned yourself with false dogma and its teachers and we told you what you were doing.
You know if we didn't care about your well being we wouldn't have worked so hard to warn you .. that is the piece you seem to be missing.

Have a good day.. I am no longer go around with you on this.

I stand my original assertion "listening" is not the same as "reading" in meaning.

Anyone having read his post who was "unbiased" would realize by "listening" he was inferring beyond the mere act of reading.

It is so obvious, seriously!!

I notice you deflected the conversation into a different direction and made it about my character rather than owning up that once again you sided with @DorothyMae against @dcontroversal to also malign his character.

 

[jackrosie]

Here let her words speak


She is against

You wrongly aligned yourself with false dogma and its teachers and we told you what you were doing.
You know if we didn't care about your well being we wouldn't have worked so hard to warn you .. that is the piece you seem to be missing.

Have a good day.. I am no longer go around with you on this.

I stand my original assertion "listening" is not the same as "reading" in meaning.

Anyone having read his post who was "unbiased" would realize by "listening" he was inferring beyond the mere act of reading.

It is so obvious, seriously!!

I notice you deflected the conversation into a different direction and made it about my character rather than owning up that once again you sided with @DorothyMae against @dcontroversal to also malign his character.

Keep his fire raging....he may end up getting banned.

And I’m not talking about his scripture....because how he presents it he would be the last person I would listen to.

I aligned myself to no false dogma..I was confused....but I tell you this,I am not confused about you and your mates.

You manipulate everything..and can see straight through it....doesn’t wash with me though.
Care about my well being...that made me laugh so much I nearly choked on my coffee.

 

[jackrosie]

So you can sin yourself out of salvation?

That made me laugh......no we can’t ...

 

[jackrosie]

NO BIGGIE, she has been supporting deceivers and false teachers from her first day here.....one has to ask where she really stands...by her support of false gospels it becomes all to obvious where she stands and who she really opposes!

False accusations..I have been discussing with someone who I believe to be searching and confused...

Where do I stand are you telling me I don’t stand on the word of God?

Show me where?

 

[jackrosie]

Exactly how RM talks.....very, very smooth and having a form of godliness





You could learn a lot from her.........take note!.

 

[jackrosie]

I seem to remember a member directing you to the ignore button...NOW it is God that did it.....a fine example you are....so....which member are you now calling God????

Finger pointing again....God led me to the ignore button through a member.

A fine example you are.....meaning?

What member am I calling God......show me where I called a member God?

You really do twist posts....by the way are you married to eleventhhour......you two seem to be on shift work.

You on the evening round.

Eleventhhour on the day round.

 

[jackrosie]

Maybe now she will understand that God is not leading you.......I wish I could really say what I want to say without being banned!

Why would you be banned.....so it’s all about “you” now is it.....and not God?

Tut tut...your slipping.

 

[EleventhHour]

Finger pointing again....God led me to the ignore button through a member.

A fine example you are.....meaning?

What member am I calling God......show me where I called a member God?

You really do twist posts....by the way are you married to eleventhhour......you two seem to be on shift work.

You on the evening round.

Eleventhhour on the day round.

You really sound silly here.

By the way I have and do defend THOSE who defend the Gospel/OSAS when someone misrepresents what they say.

And I have many times since I joined in 2016 as UnderGrace initially.

Rather than making these posts, the honourable thing to do would be to apologize ... yet you continue to attack.

Do yourself a favour, in sincerity, maintain some dignity ......best to step away from BDF right now .. I have seen this before... it does not end well.

 

[Duskey]

What have I said that was contrary to this? I measure my experience by the word, not the word by my experience. Experience is the mother of delusion.

What experience?

 

[DorothyMae]

I came on here as a guest and saw dcontroversal post to you....and he did say that......he must have deleted it....because it is no longer here.....I’m sure admin can check that one out for you.
Actually his post is still there....he said no one listens to your dribble.

He forgot that in order to be able to say that, he had to listen.

 

[DorothyMae]

Sorry DorothyMae.....I misunderstood your last question..God Loves us ...we don’t know how to love God as a non believer...when he takes up residence in our hearts....then our spirit recognises that Love....

My Spirit fell in love with his.....we are one of his....when God chooses not when we choose.

Many are called and few become chosen because they do not choose. In order for God to be just, the problem with not all being saved must with us, not Him. And he says it’s His will that all repent and be saved.

Keep searching DorothyMae God Loves it.....oh how i searched for God as a non believer and didn’t even know it..not until I became born again.

I have found more that I thought possible when I began.

 

[DorothyMae]

It does state in the bible that only a born again will go to heaven.

Can you show me where it states in the bible ...that it states.that a “born again” can lose their salvation....not the word faith.

Can you do me a favor and search out all the times “born again believer” appears in the Bible please?

The word “Born Again “.....show me those words?..that a “born again” can lose their salvation....good luck on that one.

[/quote]Lets see what the Bible says when using “born again believer” first. Those three words together please.

Jesus said at a point in time many would fall away from the faith.

 

[EleventhHour]

He forgot that in order to be able to say that, he had to listen.

Wrong, the only people who "listen" to you .. actually take in anything you have to say are those of the same ilk

I read I certainly do "listen" to anything you have to say... Thank you God.

 

[DorothyMae]

Hi DorothyMae,.....

I haven’t read or maybe I have misunderstood...but I cant find anywhere in scripture that specifically says,

Once Saved Always Saved....where are those words in the Bible?

For me I am born again....that is scriptural...it is a hard one to understand...but as you say no where in scripture are those words Once Saved Always Saved....so you are right about those words.

God’s Love came into my Spirit he loved me...I fell in Love with him...hard to explain.
I will answer if you ask me a question.x

God lives in me never to leave or forsake...

You mean “quench the Holy Spirit?” Where is it you ask?

The never leaving has conditions. You fulfill them and so feel no fear.

 

[DorothyMae]

Wrong, the only people who "listen" to you .. actually take in anything you have to say are those of the same ilk

I read I certainly do "listen" to anything you have to say... Thank you God.

For not listening you seem to read every post, same as the star among us.