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EleventhHour said:
Are you done venting... do you feel better now?

Just know this ... I was saved, am saved and will be saved completely and securely... by grace through faith apart from any and all works.... Jesus finishes what He starts.


Have you ever read this on a billboard? JESUS SAVES
The message is clear.
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Little 🐻 doesn’t have the love of God in him for he definitely does not love his neighbors who love Jesus Christ. He’s guilty of breaking the Greatest Commandment yet points fingers of condemnation at those of us who place our full faith in Jesus. Very interesting.
 
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Rosemaryx said:
BORE bear
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You are in a blind hunting Boars or Bear.

You look down one trial, and you see
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And you look down another trail and you see
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Which one do you shoot First ? ? ?

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RUN ! ! !
And hope the Rapture is Imminent!
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EleventhHour said:
Is the cross the full payment for all sin?

Answer the question a friend wants to know.
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Until one gets to THIS point?
Matthew 5
22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.

An EMPHATIC YES!

Thing is? Jesus said this, to make "certain", that people who would "elevate themselves", as the pharasees had? Would not be so able in "falling through the cracks!"


Without first offering "spiritual sacrifices ACCEPTABLE to God BY Jesus Christ!"
1 Peter 2
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

This is only 1 of the "dangers" with OSAS!
You should notice, in Peter's teaching, that it is NOT to "unbelievers", Peter is addressing this to! IT'S BELIEVERS!!!!!
The "sacrifices?" Are FROM the BELIEVER TO God, BY Jesus Christ!
Now! If Jesus "PAID IT ALL?" As is seen in OSAS "dogma!"
Then Peter was lying! Wasn't he? :unsure:

Personally? I don't believe Peter was lying at all!

But YOU?

You can believe what you wish!

So, I ask you AGAIN!
You deem yourself "knowledgeable" enough concerning the Kingdom of God, and Kingdom of Light, to "reign WITH Christ", upon His return?

Jesus said, that UNLESS one IS "born from above?" One cannot even SEE the Kingdom! LET ALONE "ENTER" INTO IT!

One with "wisdom" SHOULD be able to see how HARD it is, in turning those who "believe a lie!"

As seen, by the mocking and scoffing, OSAS'ers heap upon those who "DARE in THREATENING their lie!"

Brings up the "tares" and "tare planters", as can be so easily seen in here!

Put on yer "brass panty's" girl!
 
Lightskin said:
Your asinine comment shouldn’t even be dignified with a response, but you’re in luck; I love feral dogs.

I have faith in Jesus and His grace is upon me because of it. The difference between you and me is that I pray for you, while you have disdain for me and hope salvation eludes me.

Earlier this morning I mentioned Luke 18. You should study that chapter with diligence and a prayerful, contrite heart. God is not pleased with you Pharisees.
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And God is so pleased with you? He gave you over to strong delusion!
That you "should" (but, ya don't have to) believe a lie!

And yeah? I imagine your god, is not pleased with me!
As he sees the final grains of sand going through the hour glass!
 
EleventhHour said:
Are you done venting... do you feel better now?

Just know this ... I was saved, am saved and will be saved completely and securely... by grace through faith apart from any and all works.... Jesus finishes what He starts.


Have you ever read this on a billboard? JESUS SAVES
The message is clear.
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I agree! He sure does! Even if it is to be taught with the "rod of iron", upon His return!

Yanno? As in the "days of Noah?" Nobody believed him either! Till it started "raining!"

For the record little girl! I'm not venting!

"Jez the facts, ma'am!" "Jez the facts!"
 
Lightskin said:
Your asinine comment shouldn’t even be dignified with a response, but you’re in luck; I love feral dogs.

I have faith in Jesus and His grace is upon me because of it. The difference between you and me is that I pray for you, while you have disdain for me and hope salvation eludes me.

Earlier this morning I mentioned Luke 18. You should study that chapter with diligence and a prayerful, contrite heart. God is not pleased with you Pharisees.
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Good!
Then you should have no problems understanding "the law" Jesus was fulfilling here:
31 Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished.
 
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Lightskin said:
John 3:16
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What point exactly do you want to make from John 3:16?
The point about the present tense ongoing believing?

If you are not presently believing, none of the promises apply to you.
If you want, you can argue that a saved person always believes.
Fine, but that means you agree that you must continue to believe to be saved, or else you're not saved.
Is me or you remaining in our old unchanged sinful lives somehow the mark of the presently believing person?
The Bible says, 'no'.
But new versions of osas insist the answer is 'yes'.
Is this the direction you want to go with this?
 
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Judges1318 said:
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What point exactly do you want to make from John 3:16?
The point about the present tense ongoing believing?

If you are not presently believing, none of the promises apply to you.
If you want, you can argue that a saved person always believes.
Fine, but that means you agree that you must continue to believe to be saved, or else you're not saved.
Is me or you remaining in our old unchanged sinful lives somehow the mark of the presently believing person?
The Bible says, 'no'.
But new versions of osas insist the answer is 'yes'.
Is this the direction you want to go with this?
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You seem angry.
Does God’s grace anger you?
 
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A lot of talk about "knowledge." What is knowledge? How does the bible interpret that word?

1 Corinthians 13:2 ESV

2 And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.

1 Timothy 6:20–21 ESV

20 O Timothy, guard the deposit entrusted to you. Avoid the irreverent babble and contradictions of what is falsely called “knowledge,” 21 for by professing it some have swerved from the faith.

2 Peter ESV

3:18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen


Knowledge for Christians is understanding of God and His Word. Human knowledge is flawed.
 
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EleventhHour said:
I am thinking this out of line and inappropriate!:(
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Just as I think it very "childish" and "spiritually immature", in "blowing off" my question to you! :(

Ya can't even expect to run with the big dogs, if ya never leave the porch!

Keep chuckin' rocks!

It makes you look good to yer OSAS'er "buddies." :)

Matthew 7
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Acts 28
26 Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive:
 
Lightskin said:
You are guilty of this on a daily basis.
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Are you yourself guilty of not entering into this "Holy Priesthood?"
1 Peter 2
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

I know! Jesus paid it ALL!
Didn't He?
Therefore, there is no needs in offering spiritual sacrifice/s acceptable to God BY Jesus Christ!
Right?
 
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