Non-essential Christian Doctrines

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'Salvation' is in his list of 'non-essential' doctrine(s).

Did he not indicate that the [whole] list was/were "non-essential doctrines"...?

How are we supposed to interpret that in the context of what was written in the OP?

EDIT: Okay - well - he presented his list and asked the question as to whether each item in the list is 'non-essential' or not.
Did you also see my Essential Christian Doctrines post? I'm pretty sure you did.
 
Eschatology is not a doctrine but a field of study. There are many contradictory theories within the field. The only "doctrine" about which most Christians agree is that Jesus is coming back.

There is a bit more to the return of Jesus than agreeing that He is coming back.

Are there signs to warn you that He is approaching?

What kind of Christian life should you be living if Jesus returned tonight?

You don't want to asleep when He returns?

Will your lamp be lit when He returns?
 
There is a bit more to the return of Jesus than agreeing that He is coming back.

Are there signs to warn you that He is approaching?

What kind of Christian life should you be living if Jesus returned tonight?

You don't want to asleep when He returns?

Will your lamp be lit when He returns?
It appears that you missed the point.
 
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How did I miss the point?
You said earlier, "Eschatology, the return of Jesus is one of the primary doctrines in Christianity."

I responded, "Eschatology is not a doctrine but a field of study."

Instead of dealing with that statement, which is my point, you are challenging me a secondary statement I made.
 
I listed all of them. Which one is yours and why do you exclude others as Christian who don't agree with you?

You keep accusing me of things which I have not done.

I did not exclude any view in eschatology.

I don't have a set eschatology that I believe is true.

Though I would suggest that everyone gets a feel for the basics of eschatology.

The mark, the man of lawlessness, Christian persecution, when Jesus will return, etc.
 
You said earlier, "Eschatology, the return of Jesus is one of the primary doctrines in Christianity."

I responded, "Eschatology is not a doctrine but a field of study."

Instead of dealing with that statement, which is my point, you are challenging me a secondary statement I made.

I believe that both Paul and John wrote and spoke of the return of Jesus in some detail.

It is important to understand why that spoke at length on His return.

John wrote an entire book on eschatology in the N.T.

Paul speaks of the return of Jesus in many of his letters.

Doctrine is a truth statement, any doctrine that is mentioned often is an important doctrine.

Eschatology is not a field of study but rather an important doctrine that was taught.
 
I believe that both Paul and John wrote and spoke of the return of Jesus in some detail.

It is important to understand why that spoke at length on His return.

John wrote an entire book on eschatology in the N.T.

Paul speaks of the return of Jesus in many of his letters.

Doctrine is a truth statement, any doctrine that is mentioned often is an important doctrine.

Eschatology is not a field of study but rather an important doctrine that was taught.
The very word ends in "ology" which means "field of study", as in biology, graphology, morphology, etc. It's not a doctrine, though the field does encompass certain doctrines ("Jesus will return") and many theories ("Hitler is the antichrist").

A truth statement is not a doctrine. "Jesus wept" is a truth statement, but it's not a "doctrine". "Jesus was fully human" is a doctrine.

"Doctrines" are typically broader in scope and have significant implications for both the interpretation of Scripture and its application to one's life. No doctrine is based on a single verse of Scripture, but on the full counsel of Scripture.
 
True Christians differ non-essential doctrines. While these doctrines can separate (e.g. denominations), they should never be used to cause division.

Salvation
Order of Salvation (ordo salutis)​
Total or partial depravity​
Unlimited vs limited free will​
Unlimited vs limited atonement​
Eternal security​
Water baptism
Sprinkling, pouring or immersion​
Infant vs. “believer”​
Spiritual gifts
All still active including sign gifts​
Some still active (no sign gifts)​
None still active​
Communion
Trans/con-substantiation​
Real presence​
Memorial​
Giving
10% tithe mandatory (gross vs net income)​
No mandatory giving level​
Leadership
Strict or open succession​
Women pastors, teachers, and/or deacons​
Eschatology
Dispensational Premillennial (pre, mid, post tribulation)​
Historic Premillennial​
Amillennial​
Postmillennial​

This post is not intended to be a place to debate these individual topics. There are plenty of other posts for that. It is only intended to discuss whether or not these are non-essential doctrines. Feel free to add any doctrines (not practices) that I might have missed.
The exact nature of the relationship between Father, Son and Holy Spirit
Various forms of triunitarianism.
Various forms of biunitarianism
Various forms of unitarianism.

The exact mechanism by which the cross deals with the fracture between God and mankind.
the Christus Victor theory;
the Ransom theory;​
the Satisfaction theory;​
the Recapitulation theory;​
the Penal Substitution theiry ,​
the Moral Influence theory,
the Governmental theory,
the Scapegoat theory.

The relationship of God to time and space
Exhaustive divine determinism​
Exhaustive divine foreknowledge​
Molinism​
Open theism.​
 
The very word ends in "ology" which means "field of study", as in biology, graphology, morphology, etc. It's not a doctrine, though the field does encompass certain doctrines ("Jesus will return") and many theories ("Hitler is the antichrist").

A truth statement is not a doctrine. "Jesus wept" is a truth statement, but it's not a "doctrine". "Jesus was fully human" is a doctrine.

"Doctrines" are typically broader in scope and have significant implications for both the interpretation of Scripture and its application to one's life. No doctrine is based on a single verse of Scripture, but on the full counsel of Scripture.

So how do you explain the clause "the man of Lawlessness".

Is that a doctrine, a single verse or a truth statement and how does that relate to the
doctrine of the return of Jesus?

Is "the man of lawlessness" a non-essential doctrine?
 
Non-Essential Christian Doctrines or Biblical Truths Not to Divide Over:

1. The existence of the Nephilim (i.e., Giants - KJV) vs. There was never any such beings like the Nephilim.
2. Use of the KJV vs. Modern Bibles (unless they are Modern Textual Critics, or they viscously attack one's trust in the KJV / TR).
3. Pre-Trib, Mid Trib, or Post Trib.
4. Cessationism vs. Rational Continuationism (Not crazy stuff like rolling on the ground, and barking, etc.).
5. Using guns to defend yourself against humans, vs. Not doing so.
6. How one understands כִּרְאֵים (kirʾēm) (Root: רְאֵם (reʾēm)) translated as "unicorn" in the KJV.
7. Jehovah vs. Yahweh
8. Biblical Numerics vs No Biblical Numerics.
9. Long hair vs. Short Hair.
10. Electric Guitar Worship vs. More Old Style School Worship Music.
11. What day(s) out of the year a person is to celebrate the Lord's Supper.
12. What day Jesus died and what day He was risen.
13. Kissing and hugging before marriage is biblically acceptable vs. Kissing and hugging before marriage is biblically unacceptable.
14. Worship in a church building vs House fellowship.
15. Street preaching vs. Other forms of preaching.




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AI said:
Tithing as a divine institution ordained by God to acknowledge His lordship, express dependence on Him, and restore human dignity as stewards of His goods. Tithing is an act of recognition that God is the source of all blessings, a way to cultivate beneficence and gratitude, and a means to keep God as the center of life. It was instituted by God even before the Mosaic law, linked with God's creative and redemptive work, but it was not repealed by Christ and remains binding (Matthew 23:23). The focus is on tithing as an expression of loyalty and stewardship rather than a salvational prerequisite.

That's one of the most retarded things I've ever read. AI really is low IQ
Here are some KJV Bible verses, that AI draws it's concept of "Tithing" from... ( I hope, this helps your understandings :-) it did mine )

AI said:
Below are several King James Version passages that align with each of the commentary points you mentioned. 

1. Tithing as a divine institution ordained by God to acknowledge His lordship, express dependence on Him, and restore human dignity as stewards of His goods

God’s lordship over all provision
Deuteronomy 14:22‑23
– “Thou shalt truly tithe all that thy seed bringeth forth …
Psalm 24:1 – “The earth is the LORD’S, and the fullness thereof…

Human dependence on God for blessings
Genesis 14:20
– “And blessed be the most high God, … who delivered thine enemies into thine hand.” (Abram gives a tenth to Melchizedek)
Leviticus 27:30 – “And the LORD said unto Moses, … every thing that is the tenth part of the land … shall be holy unto the LORD.

Stewardship and dignity of the giver
Nehemiah 10:35‑37
– The people pledge “to bring the firstfruits … and the tithes … into the storerooms … that there may be a store for the Levites …
Malachi 3:10 – “Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse … that there may be meat in my house…

2. Tithing as an act of recognition that God is the source of all blessings, a way to cultivate beneficence and gratitude, and a means to keep God as the center of life

Recognition of God as source
Deuteronomy 8:18
– “But thou shalt remember the LORD thy God … for it is he that giveth thee power to get wealth.
Psalm 50:10 – “For every beast of the forest is mine, …

Cultivating gratitude & generosity
2 Chronicles 31:5‑6
– “And they gave of the increase of their fields… to the priests…
Acts 20:35 – “It is more blessed to give than to receive.

Keeping God central
Matthew 6:33
– “But seek ye first the kingdom of God…” (tithes are part of seeking first)
( Tithing is an act of our Love for God as well as for others :-) )
Hebrews 13:16 – “And do not forget to do good and to share…” (the spirit of giving aligns with keeping God at the heart of life).

3. Tithing was instituted by God even before the Mosaic law, linked with God’s creative and redemptive work, and was not repealed by Christ (remains binding – Matthew 23:23)

Pre‑Mosaic origin
Genesis 14:20
– Abram gives a tenth to Melchizedek, “priest of the most high God.”

Connected to creation/redemption
Psalm 104:14‑15
– “He causeth the grass … to grow for the cattle …” (God provides the produce that becomes the tithe).
Romans 11:36 – “For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things…” (all creation belongs to Him).

Christ’s affirmation that it remains
Matthew 23:23
– “*Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees … * Ye pay tithes of mint, anise, and cummin… but have omitted the weightier matters of the law…
Luke 18:12 – The Pharisee boasts, “I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess.” (illustrating that the practice continued in Jesus’ day).

4. Focus on tithing as an expression of loyalty and stewardship rather than a salvational prerequisite

Loyalty / covenant relationship
Deuteronomy 26:12
– “When thou hast finished tithing all the tithes of thine increase…” (a covenant act).

Stewardship, not salvation
Ephesians 2:8‑9
– “For by grace are ye saved … not of works…” (salvation is separate from tithing).
Galatians 5:22‑23 – The fruit of the Spirit includes faithfulnessthe heart behind giving, not the act itself, secures righteousness.

Giving as worship, not merit
Colossians 3:23‑24
– “Whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord…” (service, including tithes, is worship, not a merit‑earning ticket).
 
So how do you explain the clause "the man of Lawlessness".

Is that a doctrine, a single verse or a truth statement and how does that relate to the
doctrine of the return of Jesus?

Is "the man of lawlessness" a non-essential doctrine?
It’s merely a phrase from Scripture.
 


Here are some KJV Bible verses, that AI draws it's concept of "Tithing" from... ( I hope, this helps your understandings :-) it did mine )



1. Tithing as a divine institution ordained by God to acknowledge His lordship, express dependence on Him, and restore human dignity as stewards of His goods

God’s lordship over all provision
Deuteronomy 14:22‑23
– “Thou shalt truly tithe all that thy seed bringeth forth …
Psalm 24:1 – “The earth is the LORD’S, and the fullness thereof…

Human dependence on God for blessings
Genesis 14:20
– “And blessed be the most high God, … who delivered thine enemies into thine hand.” (Abram gives a tenth to Melchizedek)
Leviticus 27:30 – “And the LORD said unto Moses, … every thing that is the tenth part of the land … shall be holy unto the LORD.

Stewardship and dignity of the giver
Nehemiah 10:35‑37
– The people pledge “to bring the firstfruits … and the tithes … into the storerooms … that there may be a store for the Levites …
Malachi 3:10 – “Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse … that there may be meat in my house…

2. Tithing as an act of recognition that God is the source of all blessings, a way to cultivate beneficence and gratitude, and a means to keep God as the center of life

Recognition of God as source
Deuteronomy 8:18
– “But thou shalt remember the LORD thy God … for it is he that giveth thee power to get wealth.
Psalm 50:10 – “For every beast of the forest is mine, …

Cultivating gratitude & generosity
2 Chronicles 31:5‑6
– “And they gave of the increase of their fields… to the priests…
Acts 20:35 – “It is more blessed to give than to receive.

Keeping God central
Matthew 6:33
– “But seek ye first the kingdom of God…” (tithes are part of seeking first)
( Tithing is an act of our Love for God as well as for others :-) )
Hebrews 13:16 – “And do not forget to do good and to share…” (the spirit of giving aligns with keeping God at the heart of life).

3. Tithing was instituted by God even before the Mosaic law, linked with God’s creative and redemptive work, and was not repealed by Christ (remains binding – Matthew 23:23)

Pre‑Mosaic origin
Genesis 14:20
– Abram gives a tenth to Melchizedek, “priest of the most high God.”

Connected to creation/redemption
Psalm 104:14‑15
– “He causeth the grass … to grow for the cattle …” (God provides the produce that becomes the tithe).
Romans 11:36 – “For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things…” (all creation belongs to Him).

Christ’s affirmation that it remains
Matthew 23:23
– “*Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees … * Ye pay tithes of mint, anise, and cummin… but have omitted the weightier matters of the law…
Luke 18:12 – The Pharisee boasts, “I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess.” (illustrating that the practice continued in Jesus’ day).

4. Focus on tithing as an expression of loyalty and stewardship rather than a salvational prerequisite

Loyalty / covenant relationship
Deuteronomy 26:12
– “When thou hast finished tithing all the tithes of thine increase…” (a covenant act).

Stewardship, not salvation
Ephesians 2:8‑9
– “For by grace are ye saved … not of works…” (salvation is separate from tithing).
Galatians 5:22‑23 – The fruit of the Spirit includes faithfulnessthe heart behind giving, not the act itself, secures righteousness.

Giving as worship, not merit
Colossians 3:23‑24
– “Whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord…” (service, including tithes, is worship, not a merit‑earning ticket).
This is a first: a human attempting to argue on behalf of a bot’s deeply flawed rationale.

FYI, you’re both wrong.