Must we repent in order to be forgiven?
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Your mixing up the components of salvation. Its not the distance from regeneration to glorification that saves . its from unbelief to belief . Your conflating terms because you believe that your not saved until glorification. The point is ,yes we are not glorified yet ,so that 'part ' of salvation is yet future . BUT a believer is SAVED from the penalty of sin . He is no longer appointed to wrath ..He is no longer unrighteous, un justified or lost. He's known of God. He's predestined to be glorified ( Not predestinated to be saved as calvinists teach ) Hes saved in every sense awaiting glorification which from God's perspective its already as good as, because of being sealed by the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption. Rom 8.23 . Eph 1 .12 -13
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Some people are saying that to repent of their sins is a work not necessary for forgiveness. They even relate it to asking God to forgive us because of all our works, that we work so well we can be forgiven. That idea is denying Christ, and not part of Christianity.
When we pray, we also ask God for our needs, and if our prayers ask for sin in our life instead of asking that we be free of sin as repentance is, then we are given the sin in our life. Asking for God's forgiveness is asking to be free of sin or in scripture language, we repent. We either ask for sin or we ask that we be sin free, we get what we ask for. Either we are given righteousness through Christ we ask for with repentance, or we get the eternal death that we ask for when we ask to keep the sin, that is the opposite to repentance. There is nothing in the middle, it is one or the other.
When we pray, we also ask God for our needs, and if our prayers ask for sin in our life instead of asking that we be free of sin as repentance is, then we are given the sin in our life. Asking for God's forgiveness is asking to be free of sin or in scripture language, we repent. We either ask for sin or we ask that we be sin free, we get what we ask for. Either we are given righteousness through Christ we ask for with repentance, or we get the eternal death that we ask for when we ask to keep the sin, that is the opposite to repentance. There is nothing in the middle, it is one or the other.
Revelations isn’t in chronological order. When revelations mentions the church the churches are told to overcome to get the prize..which is eternal life. I‘m paraphrasing of course...but that’s what I get out of it. Jesus tells the church what they must do to get through the tribulation...and the rest talks about the tribulation.
There are the martyrs under the alter in revelations 6..which are the church. And those martry’s are mentioned later as ruling with Christ.
There are the martyrs under the alter in revelations 6..which are the church. And those martry’s are mentioned later as ruling with Christ.
1 Corinthians 9:24
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
Philippians 3:13-14, 16
Brethren, I do not regard myself as having laid hold of it yet; but one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and reaching forward to what lies ahead, I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.
however, let us keep living by that same standard to which we have attained.
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
Philippians 3:13-14, 16
Brethren, I do not regard myself as having laid hold of it yet; but one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and reaching forward to what lies ahead, I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.
however, let us keep living by that same standard to which we have attained.