Must we repent in order to be forgiven?

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I could share many accounts as to what you are referring to . My testimony is life changing and the experience I felt the night I was saved is unforgettable. I know exact time I was saved . The very minute..
How about right now? Are you communing with the Spirit?
 

Lisamn

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Its to do with Jesus warning the jews ( diciples ) That they ( Israel) will experience THE tribulation to come. All the points are Jewish and about Jerusalem ( Israel)
The disciples aren’t Jews anymore but Christians now. The tribulation will also be about the Jews...in fact that’s when the church age ends...however we will be the ones sharing the gospel to the world as we are the only ones that know it.

There will be those that will beheaded during the tribulation. Not the Church. There is no Church mentioned after Rev 4 .
Haha, you are pretty set on irrelevant points. The church is mentioned though in revelation 6 with the martyrs under the alter and the opening of the 5th seal.
 

Lisamn

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People will come to believe through the witnessing of the 144000 Jews during the tribulation. They will be preaching the word of God . The bible, with that information in it . The information that we have the luxury to understand ahead of time.
They will be around too but remember God seals them...they aren’t the martyred under the alter.
 

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How about right now? Are you communing with the Spirit?
Ya...were the Jews or Christians?
The 12 apostles were sent with signs accompanied to reach Israel . They were preaching the gospel of the kingdom which is not the same Gospel we preach today . But the one that will be preached again during the tribulation.
 

throughfaith

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They will be around too but remember God seals them...they aren’t the martyred under the alter.
tribulation saints. Not the Church. The Church is not appointed to wrath. Its a time of testing for Israel.
 
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tribulation saints. Not the Church. The Church is not appointed to wrath. Its a time of testing for Israel.
Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Jesus is only returning in the clouds one time. Many are now believing a lie because this is what they have been taught about a "rapture". This is the falling away. Next will be the two prophets and Israel turning to Christ and going out into the world preaching the true gospel
 

Blik

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All the Bible is for us but not all the bible is to us .
I don't think there is any time that the Lord withholds His word from any human, God is the God of all who wants all to listen to Him. All scripture is to us, even though He spoke through the Israelites at one time.
 
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This is hilarious to hear as many KJV-only people (I'd say most I know) believe in easy believism. No repentance whatsoever unless repentance means change of mind where a change of action may or may not occur.
For you to say that...do you know what repent means for us to do?
 
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No I'm saved based on what the bible says . it has nothing to do with works . We ' work ' for the furtherance of the gospel because we are saved ,not in order to stay saved .
If alive no one is saved. The Bible says we have repented and are born again. We are not saved until death occurs and at Judgement God says we are saved.
 

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I don't think there is any time that the Lord withholds His word from any human, God is the God of all who wants all to listen to Him. All scripture is to us, even though He spoke through the Israelites at one time.
Who said anything about withholding? I think your misunderstanding what I'm saying " Go build an Ark of Gopher wood " was TO Noah . But its FOR us to understand. Even though we don't go build an Ark .
 

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If alive no one is saved. The Bible says we have repented and are born again. We are not saved until death occurs and at Judgement God says we are saved.
Being a Child of God through the new birth is being ' saved ' . ' saved is also referring to when we are glorified. Its not Just one meaning for ' saved ' . God predestines a believer after they are regenerated to the Adoption which is called the adoption as described in Rom 8 .23
 

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Ya...were they Jews or Christians?
To the Lord, there are those who accept God and those who don't. The ethnic Jews are those who God gave the responsibility of caretakers of the word when the nations did not accept Him. The Israelites to the Lord, are those who accept God, some are grafted in, some are ethnic.
 
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Ya...were they Jews or Christians?
They were Christians, all who have faith and believe in Christ are Christians. Including those who had faith in his coming before he came. Christian means follower of Christ, so all who follow Christ are Christian. It's that simple.
 

throughfaith

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If alive no one is saved. The Bible says we have repented and are born again. We are not saved until death occurs and at Judgement God says we are saved.
Yes were not yet Glorified . But because we are Guranteed to be ,by the sealing of the indwelling Holy Spirit . It can be said that we are SAVED ..A person who is justified and regenerated, is already spiritually seated in heavenly places IN CHRIST JESUS ( EPH 2.6 ) Were supposed to live in this reality/ truth ,by faith. Thats were the power comes from for living and preaching the gosepl . From trusting his word . Many do not believe this and are ineffective because of self focusing and fear .
 

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Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Jesus is only returning in the clouds one time. Many are now believing a lie because this is what they have been taught about a "rapture". This is the falling away. Next will be the two prophets and Israel turning to Christ and going out into the world preaching the true gospel
True Gosepl ?
 

throughfaith

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This is hilarious to hear as many KJV-only people (I'd say most I know) believe in easy believism. No repentance whatsoever unless repentance means change of mind where a change of action may or may not occur.
Is it, 'hard believism '? I know the cults teach that you have to work for it .