jesus is not God

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We should not believe human belief or theory if that was the case God would never had to make the Bible. Were suppose to believe what the Bible says what God says because there are many Antichrist in the world false prophets or as John 10 says in KJV hireling s out there doing the will of the devil. Don't believe human teaching believe God if it is not in the Bible it is not true.the Bible says God can not lie so lets trust God in Jesus name God bless u
 
theBibleisawsome said:
and the only God is Jesus ill post more on this topic soon hope this helps u God bless
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what?? did you ignored almost the whole Gospel to come to this conclusion???

youre saying Jesus gave false testimony over who he was????? by secretly being God instead of the son of God,

are you saying that Jesus was acting ignorant when he said:
But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.

Peter was right when he said:
...which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures
 
Idk what ur talking about I never said Jesus lied about anything I said to believe God and what he says is better than listening to human belief if its not in the Bible
 
Yeah I said that Jesus is God God the Father came in the flesh to save us John 1:1-14 John 14 talks about it to and thats why in Revelation when God was talking to John he told him I Am alpha and omega the beginning a.d the ending the first and the last then he said and I quote I Am he that was dead and am alive forever more only Jesus died and roses from the dead so God is saying I am Jesus I came in the flesh it was me not nobody else thats why he says im he that was dead and am alive forever more and it was him in the flesh thats why John 14 when Phillip says shoe us the Father and it will satisfy us Jesus said have I been so long time with u and yet thou has not known me Philip he that sees me has seen the Father because God the Father cMe in the flesh.thats why I say Jesus is God this is just a little bit of my proof there's still more I have. But I just showed this little bit for now
 
theBibleisawsome said:
Yeah I said that Jesus is God God the Father came in the flesh to save us John 1:1-14 John 14 talks about it to and thats why in Revelation when God was talking to John he told him I Am alpha and omega the beginning a.d the ending the first and the last then he said and I quote I Am he that was dead and am alive forever more only Jesus died and roses from the dead so God is saying I am Jesus I came in the flesh it was me not nobody else thats why he says im he that was dead and am alive forever more and it was him in the flesh thats why John 14 when Phillip says shoe us the Father and it will satisfy us Jesus said have I been so long time with u and yet thou has not known me Philip he that sees me has seen the Father because God the Father cMe in the flesh.thats why I say Jesus is God this is just a little bit of my proof there's still more I have. But I just showed this little bit for now
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well said my brother. Jesus is not just GOD but the Father as well. like you explained clearly. p.s there is nothing more you can say to truthful. if he does not understand, it is because Jesus has not chosen to reveal the truth to him. GOD BLESS
 
pentecostal said:
well said my brother. Jesus is not just GOD but the Father as well. like you explained clearly. p.s there is nothing more you can say to truthful. if he does not understand, it is because Jesus has not chosen to reveal the truth to him. GOD BLESS
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That statement is false, Jesus is not the Father but the Son. He is of one essence with the Father yet He is a completely different person. Jesus is not God the Father for that would be totally impossible. Jesus is human as well as divine, with two different natures, divine and human. Jesus has a human will as well as a divine will being the Son of God and clothed with human nature, but He is not The Father. That is not possible because Jesus is the Son, not the Father. He is the only Begotten Son of God who came from God the Father and is of the same essence and substance as the Father. Because of this He is a different Person as the Father.
 
God: "I am the First and I am the Last." (Isaiah 48:12) the first and last what??
the first God and the last God, right?

Jesus: "I am the First and the Last." (Rev. 1:17).
"The first Adam became a living being; the last Adam , a life-giving spirit." (1 Cor 15:45)


the son of God is made in the image of God (Gen. 1:26)
so when you have seen the image of the son you have seen the image of the father.

alpha and omega means also first and last .

does this say he is God?? the first and last what?
what we know for sure is that Jesus is the first born Son of Man (made of Man) and the last born Son of God
( we are all sons and daugthers of Adam, and Adam is the direct son of God.)

in revelation Jesus (not God) was saying to John that he was dead and alive again.
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass (rev 1.1)


I read it the way it is written, I dont add words like you do saying he is the first and last God
if you have seen me you have seen the father for Im God in flesh

For I testify unto every man that hears the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
 
if Jesus would have said I am the Father, there are two who have this title

Adam: the father of mankind
God: the father of all angels and mankind and all!

Adam is made in the image of god an we are made in the image of men.
When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him seth
 
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Its funny how u try using that last verse on me that verse can go to ways u should think about that last verse two
 
giving a opinion about a verses is not adding words to that vers,
but you dont give youre opinion you say : the bible states Jesus is God
 
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StMichaelTheArchangel said:
That statement is false, Jesus is not the Father but the Son. He is of one essence with the Father yet He is a completely different person. Jesus is not God the Father for that would be totally impossible. Jesus is human as well as divine, with two different natures, divine and human. Jesus has a human will as well as a divine will being the Son of God and clothed with human nature, but He is not The Father. That is not possible because Jesus is the Son, not the Father. He is the only Begotten Son of God who came from God the Father and is of the same essence and substance as the Father. Because of this He is a different Person as the Father.
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now what i have said is biblical what you are saying is blasphemy in the sense that you are saying that the father is a person and the son is another, meaning you worship more than one God which is non christian.

HERE O ISRALE THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE (NOT THREE)

1 timothy 3 :16 says that great is the mystery of godliness (yes it is a mystery to you because you have yet to grasp on the truth) God was manifest in the flesh

.jesus is the GOD of the old testament ok he is not a different GOD than the father nor is he a smaller God or inferior one.

God came down and became flesh (servant) and died for us. jesus said if you see me you have seen the father how much more simplicity does God need to insert in his word for you to understand that he is only ONE and not THREE like you believe. listen here the trinity is not in the bible nor what it explains. why believe in something that was made after the disciples / that is man made theology WHY?.

JESUS IS THE FATHER. IN ISAIAH 9 :6 IT SAYS HE IS THE ETERNAL FATHER.

now you need to understand something.

when it refers to jesus as the son of God it is refering to his humanity, even though he was a human he was still the almighty God. he is called the son because he was in flesh, he was among us but as he was walking on earth he was in heaven two and everywhere else that you can imagine. he is the only God in heaven and earth.

i believe in one God and i suggest that you do the same thing and leave that false belief of the trinity.

GOD IS ONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

GOD BLESS YOU MY FRIEND
 
pentecostal said:
now what i have said is biblical what you are saying is blasphemy in the sense that you are saying that the father is a person and the son is another, meaning you worship more than one God which is non christian.

HERE O ISRALE THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE (NOT THREE)

1 timothy 3 :16 says that great is the mystery of godliness (yes it is a mystery to you because you have yet to grasp on the truth) God was manifest in the flesh

.jesus is the GOD of the old testament ok he is not a different GOD than the father nor is he a smaller God or inferior one.

God came down and became flesh (servant) and died for us. jesus said if you see me you have seen the father how much more simplicity does God need to insert in his word for you to understand that he is only ONE and not THREE like you believe. listen here the trinity is not in the bible nor what it explains. why believe in something that was made after the disciples / that is man made theology WHY?.

JESUS IS THE FATHER. IN ISAIAH 9 :6 IT SAYS HE IS THE ETERNAL FATHER.

now you need to understand something.

when it refers to jesus as the son of God it is refering to his humanity, even though he was a human he was still the almighty God. he is called the son because he was in flesh, he was among us but as he was walking on earth he was in heaven two and everywhere else that you can imagine. he is the only God in heaven and earth.

i believe in one God and i suggest that you do the same thing and leave that false belief of the trinity.

GOD IS ONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

GOD BLESS YOU MY FRIEND
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"Jesus is the Father"???? Then how could he say:

John 14:28) .. for my Father is greater than I.

(but you're right about the trinity)
 
truthfull said:
if Jesus would have said I am the Father, there are two who have this title

Adam: the father of mankind
God: the father of all angels and mankind and all!

Adam is made in the image of god an we are made in the image of men.
When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him seth
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God bless you

ok now let me tell you something truthfull

there is a difference between an image and THE IMAGE

now adam was made in the image of God which is an image of GOD but not the image of God , are you with me

now in colossians 1:15 it says that HE (JESUS) IS THE IMAGE OF THE INVISIBLE GOD.

do you understand the difference.

in colossians it is saying that if jesus were to stand in front of a mirror you would see the father. very clear english.

meaning that he is the father simple as that.

accept jesus as your God and saviour and get baptized in his name for the remission of your sins. and you will be saved.

God bless you again
 
pentecostal said:
...accept jesus as your God and saviour and get baptized in his name for the remission of your sins. and you will be saved.
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That is not in the bible. Nowhere does it say are we to accept Jesus as God. This is what I think you meant:

Rom 10:9) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
 
shroom2 said:
"Jesus is the Father"???? Then how could he say:

John 14:28) .. for my Father is greater than I.

(but you're right about the trinity)
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God bless you.

now jesus when he said that he was talking in the flesh.

remember what it says in philipians that he poured himself out and became lower than the angels and a servant even to death

jesus is not inferior to the father. he said he is one with the father, he would not be one with the father if he were inferior to him.

if jesus was inferior to the father. then there would be a big God (the father) and a small God (jesus)

God bless
 
pentecostal said:
...if jesus was inferior to the father. then there would be a big God (the father) and a small God (jesus)
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Or more correctly, there would be one God, the Father (which is what the bible says) and one Lord Jesus Christ (The Son of God).
 
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