jesus is not God

[pentecostal]

That is not in the bible. Nowhere does it say are we to accept Jesus as God. This is what I think you meant:

Rom 10:9) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

no i was correct in saying that. jesus is God even though it does not say that you shoudl accept him as God.

you have to think with your mind, GOD gave us a mind to think with.

tell me something who raised jesus?

 

[pentecostal]

Or more correctly, there would be one God, the Father (which is what the bible says) and one Lord Jesus Christ (The Son of God).

no not correctly at all because jesus is God and you cannot lower him to a small God just like the jehovahs witnesses do

 

[truthfull]

no i was correct in saying that. jesus is God even though it does not say that you shoudl accept him as God.

you have to think with your mind, GOD gave us a mind to think with.

tell me something who raised jesus?

Yes youre right we have to think with our own brains, but rcc and many more followers dont think the pope is thinking for them and they just live by it, its a waist of brains i think

 

[pentecostal]

Yes youre right we have to think with our own brains, but rcc and many more followers dont think the pope is thinking for them and they just live by it, its a waist of brains i think

you still haven't answered my question

who raised jesus from the dead

 

[shroom2]

no i was correct in saying that. jesus is God even though it does not say that you shoudl accept him as God.

I accept him for what the bible says he is, the Son of God.

you have to think with your mind, GOD gave us a mind to think with.

I agree.

tell me something who raised jesus?

As the bible plainly says: God, his Father did.

Rom 10:9) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Are you going to quote John 2:19 as "proof" that Jesus raised himself?

Jesus was dead. Absolutely dead. A dead man cannot raise himself.

 

[shroom2]

no not correctly at all because jesus is God and you cannot lower him to a small God just like the jehovahs witnesses do

Jesus is the Son of God. Only God the Father is God.

 

[pentecostal]

I accept him for what the bible says he is, the Son of God.


I agree.


As the bible plainly says: God, his Father did.

Rom 10:9) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Are you going to quote John 2:19 as "proof" that Jesus raised himself?

Jesus was dead. Absolutely dead. A dead man cannot raise himself.

so are you denying the words of jesus?

that he will raise it up

 

[pentecostal]

I accept him for what the bible says he is, the Son of God.


I agree.


people called jesus God and in the bible all the words that were to speak about the father were given to jesus aswell

e.g both are:

saviour
lord
lord of lords
king of kings
the alpha and the omega
the first and the last
God

 

[pentecostal]

Jesus was dead. Absolutely dead. A dead man cannot raise himself.[/QUOTE]

jesus did not die it was the flesh that he dwelt in that died.

when the spirit left the body, the body died. God cannot die.

1st timothy 3 :16 Great is the mistery of godliness.

GOD WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH

TRY TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

WHAT ARE YOU BY THE WAY?

 

[pentecostal]

Jesus is the Son of God. Only God the Father is God.

jesus is God. the son is referring to what jesus dwelt in which was the flesh thats what he called son (it was the flesh)


question

who created the world?

was it God alone or was it jesus?

 

[theBibleisawsome]

I wanna say thank u for standing up for Jesus Pentecostal God bless u for that.ok now Jesus said destroy this temple and I will raise it in three days Jesus is God even though it's not those exact words in the Bible but look at the verses and truthful how come everytime u say God isn't Jesus that their seperate u only give examples of how u think their seperate from each other u forget to mention John 10:30 I and my Father are one explain that one in John chapter 12 Jesus said whoever see s me see s he that sent me explain that one in John 14 Jesus told Phillip whoever sees me sees the Father indicating they R the same thing not seperate Jesus didn't say when Phillip asked him show us the Father that my Father is in heaven he said have I been so long time with u and yet u don't know me Phillip he that has seen me has seen the Father indicating Jesus is the Father

 

[dmdave17]

what is this about Jesus being God and three persons etc.
Im a follower of Jesus christ and have read the bible and I hear people saying Jesus is God why?????

please explain short and clearly,with scripture proof.

thank you.

I would like to offer some scriptural evidence that Jesus was God, not based on what was said about Him, but by what He said and did.

In Matthew, when the disciples were crossing a body of water with Jesus and a bad storm came up, Scripture tells us "The disciples went and woke him, saying, 'Lord, save us! We’re going to drown!' He replied, 'You of little faith, why are you so afraid?' Then he got up and rebuked the winds and the waves, and it was completely calm." (Matthew 8:25-26) Who else but God controls the wind? Psalm 78, verse 26, tells us "He let loose the east wind from the heavens and by his power made the south wind blow."

And when Jesus came to the outskirts of Jerusalem in his journey, He wept and said "“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing.'" (Matthew 23:37) Again, could this have been anyone but God talking?

Finally, when a crowd questioned him about the lineage of Abraham, the narrative is as follows, "'Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad. You are not yet fifty years old,' they said to him, 'and you have seen Abraham!' 'Very truly I tell you,' Jesus answered, 'before Abraham was born, I am.'" (John 8:56-58, emphasis added) This is clearly God talking. Recall the story in Exodus, "Moses said to God, 'Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ Then what shall I tell them?” God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I AM has sent me to you." (Exodus 3:13-14)

So I think the scriptural evidence is clear. Jesus, Himself, said He was God. And to say that He was not is to call Him a liar.

God bless.

 

[shroom2]

I would like to offer some scriptural evidence that Jesus was God, not based on what was said about Him, but by what He said and did.

In Matthew, when the disciples were crossing a body of water with Jesus and a bad storm came up, Scripture tells us "The disciples went and woke him, saying, 'Lord, save us! We’re going to drown!' He replied, 'You of little faith, why are you so afraid?' Then he got up and rebuked the winds and the waves, and it was completely calm." (Matthew 8:25-26) Who else but God controls the wind? Psalm 78, verse 26, tells us "He let loose the east wind from the heavens and by his power made the south wind blow."

Elijah caused it not to rain for three years, then had it rain.
1 Kings 17:1) And Elijah the Tishbite, who was of the inhabitants of Gilead, said unto Ahab, As the LORD God of Israel liveth, before whom I stand, there shall not be dew nor rain these years, but according to my word.

Was Elijah God?

And when Jesus came to the outskirts of Jerusalem in his journey, He wept and said "“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing.'" (Matthew 23:37) Again, could this have been anyone but God talking?

Yes. It plainly says Jesus Christ said it.

Finally, when a crowd questioned him about the lineage of Abraham, the narrative is as follows, "'Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad. You are not yet fifty years old,' they said to him, 'and you have seen Abraham!' 'Very truly I tell you,' Jesus answered, 'before Abraham was born, I am.'" (John 8:56-58, emphasis added) This is clearly God talking.

No, it was Jesus Christ.

The exact same phrase as it translated “I am” in this verse is translated “I am he” or some other way in Matt. 14:27; Mark 6:50; 13:6; Luke 21:8; John 6:20; 8:24,28; 13:19; 18:5,6,8.

Jesus Christ was telling them that he was the one prophesied about from before Abraham was born.

Recall the story in Exodus, "Moses said to God, 'Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ Then what shall I tell them?” God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I AM has sent me to you." (Exodus 3:13-14)

Many Christians mistakenly associate John 8:58 with Exodus 3:13-14 when they have nothing to do with each other.

So I think the scriptural evidence is clear. Jesus, Himself, said He was God.

No, he did not. Read your examples over again. In not a single one did Jesus say he was God. Many times he claimed to be the Son of God, which he was. It is religion that has made him into God.

And to say that He was not is to call Him a liar.

To call Jesus Christ something he never claimed to be, and could not be, is error.

There is one God, the Father. Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God.

 

[shroom2]

jesus is God. the son is referring to what jesus dwelt in which was the flesh thats what he called son (it was the flesh)

Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

question

who created the world?

was it God alone or was it jesus?

God alone. Please see Genesis 1:1

 

[shroom2]

jesus did not die it was the flesh that he dwelt in that died.

Then our sins are not paid for. The wages of sin is death. Jesus paid the price.

when the spirit left the body, the body died. God cannot die.

Right. And Jesus died.

1st timothy 3 :16 Great is the mistery of godliness.

GOD WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH

TRY TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

Only the KJV uses "God was manifest in the flesh". Most other translations say "he was manifest in the flesh", referring to Jesus Christ.

(KJV) And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

(NIV) Beyond all question, the mystery of godliness is great: He appeared in a body, was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory.

(ESV) Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of godliness: He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated by the Spirit, seen by angels, proclaimed among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory.

(NKJV) And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.

(NRSV) Without any doubt, the mystery of our religion is great: He was revealed in flesh, vindicated in spirit, seen by angels, proclaimed among Gentiles, believed in throughout the world, taken up in glory.

(ASV) And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness; He who was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the spirit, Seen of angels, Preached among the nations, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.

Jesus Christ was manifest in the flesh, justified in the spirit, seen by angels, preached among the nations, believed on in the world, and received up in glory.

WHAT ARE YOU BY THE WAY?

Christian.

 

[theBibleisawsome]

When Elijah prayed for no rain and the prayer was answered it was a example of howstrong prayer can be and what prayer can do and it's suppose to encourage us to not give up on prayer. Also its true it's not in exact words that Jesus is God In the Bible but he is God. If he's not God plz explain this to me why did he say in John chapter 12 he that sees me has seen he that sent me and in John 14 Jesus said whoever has seen me has seen the Father he never said his Father was in heaven when Philip told him to show us the Father he told him have I been so long time with u and u still don't know me he that has seen
Me has seen the Father he's clearly indicating that he is God he didn't tell Philip my Father is in Heaven I cant show u him he said he's looking at him. And the Bible says that God raised Jesus from the dead.but however Jesus said himself that destroy this temple a.n I will raise it in 3 day's indicating that he is God because he said I will raise myself in 3 days he didn't say my Father will raise me in 3 days he said that he himself will do it and the Bible says God raised him from the dead so Jesus is God

 

[shroom2]

When Elijah prayed for no rain and the prayer was answered it was a example of howstrong prayer can be and what prayer can do and it's suppose to encourage us to not give up on prayer. Also its true it's not in exact words that Jesus is God In the Bible but he is God.

People keep saying that, even though Jesus himself never did.

If he's not God plz explain this to me why did he say in John chapter 12 he that sees me has seen he that sent me and in John 14 Jesus said whoever has seen me has seen the Father he never said his Father was in heaven when Philip told him to show us the Father he told him have I been so long time with u and u still don't know me he that has seen
Me has seen the Father

Because we cannot see God. Jesus Christ always did exactly what his Father wanted him to. He always did God's will. Jesus Christ made God known. He declared Him. God is Spirit, nobody can see God. If you want to know what God is like, look at Jesus Christ. That is why he could say "he who has seen me has seen the Father". He certainly wasn't saying he was the Father.

he's clearly indicating that he is God

No, he was not "clearly indicating he was God". Only God, the Father, is God.

he didn't tell Philip my Father is in Heaven I cant show u him he said he's looking at him. And the Bible says that God raised Jesus from the dead.but however Jesus said himself that destroy this temple a.n I will raise it in 3 day's indicating that he is God because he said I will raise myself

Jesus never said he would raise himself. You are reading into it. He said "destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up". He was in the temple.

in 3 days he didn't say my Father will raise me in 3 days he said that he himself will do it and the Bible says God raised him from the dead so Jesus is God

Jesus was dead. DEAD. He had to be dead or our sins are not paid for. He did not raise himself. God, his Father, raised him.

I am not belittling Jesus Christ in ANY WAY. He is the only begotten Son of God, the Messiah, our Lord and savior. Recognizing that he was a man takes absolutely nothing away from who he is and what he accomplished for us, and it elevates God, his Father, to His rightful position as the one true God, the creator. In fact, understanding that Jesus is a man makes it more incredible what he did. He NEVER SINNED. If he was God, what's so hard about living a sinless life? Jesus Christ did not want to die! He prayed HARD three times to God "if there's ANY other way to do this...". Yet he did his Father's will. Jesus Christ had to trust that God would follow through on the promises and raise him from the dead, which obviously God did.

Jesus was a lamb from the flock of humanity, without spot and blemish. The only begotten Son of God. The perfect man. And he gave his life for the sins of you and me.

 

[theBibleisawsome]

In regard to the Scripture Jesus did say if u destroy this temple in three days I will raise it up he was not talking about the temple Solomon made that took like 40 years I think to make and it says in the same part that they understood not that he was talking about His Body because His Body was the Temple they were blind and thought he was talking about the Temple humans made

 

[truthfull]

John 10:30... I and my Father are one explain ....Father

if I explain, will you also explain why this verses means Jesus and god are one person??


Jesus said let the people be one as we are one. (this is one in faith or one in mission, see underline).

but again youre adding to the verse I and my Father are one God

we know that Jesus said : let me be in them as You are in me. for you this probably means that jesus is in you?

for me it means Jesus is the root and we are the branches, if a branch will break off it will die
( Jesus said to spoke in parables)

we know that its written in Ezechial , that God will put his spirit in the people of the new covenant, but this doesnt mean youre God, or do you think otherwise?

 

[truthfull]

God can creat with His words: and by the Word of God everything was created

And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters
And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered....
etc.

I believe God granted the word to Adam who was there in the beginning with God:
..unto Adam to see what he would call them. and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was its name.
... and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moves upon the earth.


I believe the Word of God is also ment for us to have :
if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you