jesus is not God

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The Greek word 'kyrios' is used in reference to FATHER Yahweh's SON Yahshua.

"As an adjective the word 'kyrios' means literally 'having power or authority over', 'capable', 'authorized', etc."

Yahshua proclaimed that all power (authority) had been GIVEN to him in Heaven and in the Earth. Obviously it was his and our FATHER Yahweh Who GAVE His SON this power (authority), since it is FATHER Yahweh Who is the source of all power (authority). FATHER Yahweh would not need to be GIVEN all power (authority), since He has always had power (authority).

Also a great source to give reference to is Thayer's Lexicon. Go to the following link and see: "Thayer's Lexicon (Help)'" and make sure you click on "Click Here for the Rest of the Entry" there.

Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon
 
Also a great source to give reference to is Thayer's Lexicon. Go to the following link and see: "Thayer's Lexicon (Help)'" and make sure you click on "Click Here for the Rest of the Entry" there.

Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon

The Greek word 'kyrios' is used in reference to FATHER Yahweh's SON Yahshua.

"As an adjective the word 'kyrios' means literally 'having power or authority over', 'capable', 'authorized', etc."

Yahshua proclaimed that all power (authority) had been GIVEN to him in Heaven and in the Earth. Obviously it was his and our FATHER Yahweh Who GAVE His SON this power (authority), since it is FATHER Yahweh Who is the source of all power (authority). FATHER Yahweh would not need to be GIVEN all power (authority), since He has always had power (authority).

Also a great source to give reference to is Thayer's Lexicon. Go to the following link and see: "Thayer's Lexicon (Help)'" and make sure you click on "Click Here for the Rest of the Entry" there.

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This should be sufficient evidence in accordance with Scripture (FATHER Yahweh's prophetic word) to convince anyone that Yahshua ["Jesus"] is NOT his and our Heavenly FATHER and Creator Yahweh ["God"], but is in fact His SON.

Did Yahshua Create Or Pre-exist His Birth?

"Jesus IS God!"?
 
Yes the Bible says there is one God well over a hundred times in the old testament I agree on that statement the Bible says nothing about two gods but some questions about if Jesus isn't God how come the Bible says God raised Jesus from the dead and Jesus himself said destroy this temple n I will raise it in three days he was talking about his body according to the Bible he never said dstroy this temple n my Father will raise it in three days he said he himself would raise it
 
Isaiah 9:2-6

2The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.
3Thou hast multiplied the nation, and not increased the joy: they joy before thee according to the joy in harvest, and as men rejoice when they divide the spoil.
4For thou hast broken the yoke of his burden, and the staff of his shoulder, the rod of his oppressor, as in the day of Midian.
5For every battle of the warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood; but this shall be with burning and fuel of fire.
6For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
 
The Bible says God is the only judge so ill let him Judge me because he knows all truth he knows who tells the truth and who tells lies don't judge unless u wanna be judge twice as much as u judge and the Bible says to pray for ur persecuters and those that hate u and ur enemies so I won't judge nobody but follow as Jesus said and let him be my perfect example God bless u all

The FATHER GAVE all judgement to His SON:

For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: (Yahchanan [John] 5:22).

Yahshua was not the judge until his and our Heavenly FATHER and Creator GAVE it to him in this last time period. FATHER Yahweh is our Supreme Judge THROUGH (BY WAY OF) His SON Yahshua. FATHER Yahweh did not need to be GIVEN judgment by anyone, since that was no other greater than He. Yahshua proclaimed that ALL power (authority) had been GIVEN to him in Heaven and in the Earth and this ALL power (authority) most certainly included the power (authority) to redeem mankind from sin and death and the power (authority) to judge.

But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins ..." (Mattithyah [Matthew] 9:6; Yahchanan Mark 2:10).

Did Yahshua Create Or Pre-exist His Birth?

"Jesus IS God!"?





 
"My Lord and my God!" (John 20:28)


How much clearer can you get than that? Thomas is addressing Jesus here in the context (...and he said to Him...)
 
Yes the Bible says there is one God well over a hundred times in the old testament I agree on that statement the Bible says nothing about two gods but some questions about if Jesus isn't God how come the Bible says God raised Jesus from the dead and Jesus himself said destroy this temple n I will raise it in three days he was talking about his body according to the Bible he never said dstroy this temple n my Father will raise it in three days he said he himself would raise it

One God means one as in united not one as in singular.
 
Do you not realize that even secular Jewish scholars state that Jesus was killed because he claimed to be GOD, so either he was who he claimed to be or he was a liar and thus a sinner just like us and unable to die for our sins. Stop trying to twist what Jesus himself claimed and pretend he meant something else. Too many people take the concept of a God that is 3 (WHICH IS IN THE BIBLE) but also one and dispute it. Why? Because like the pharisees of Jesus' time, they want God to fit inside their box of what they can understand. Just because we have a hard time understanding how it works, does not mean we shouldn't accept that which the Bible teaches.
 
Ladoceia ur last comment towards me makes no sense at all so ur saying there's 3 gods n the Bible says there is only one God not one in unity just one plain and simple there's no 3 gods in the Bible
 
6For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
 
Ladoceia ur last comment towards me makes no sense at all so ur saying there's 3 gods n the Bible says there is only one God not one in unity just one plain and simple there's no 3 gods in the Bible

really? What about:

Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God(Hebrew word used here is Elohim which is a plural word) created the heavens and the earth. **Note also Jewish scholars from hundreds of years before Jesus came into this world interpreted this as: In the beginning, by(or with) the Firstborn, God created the heavens in the earth

Genesis 1:26-27
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
**Who is us? God, one but three

Genesis 11:5-8
But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower which the sons of men had built. And the Lord said, “Indeed the people are one and they all have one language, and this is what they begin to do; now nothing that they propose to do will be withheld from them. Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.” So the Lord scattered them abroad from there over the face of all the earth, and they ceased building the city.
**Again who is us? God, one but three

I COULD keep going in the old testament but will move to the new because Jesus is the question of this post.

John 1:1-3
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
**The Word was WITH God and the Word WAS God. So who is this Word? Jesus! we find later in the passage that the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, that is Jesus. So Jesus was with God and WAS God. Now some like the Jehovah's Witnesses change it to say that the Word was a God, which is messed up because we are told in many places that all other 'gods' are false gods. So if Jesus was just a 'god' then he is false and thus not sinless and thus unable to die for our sins. Also then all things were made through a false god. . .which is obviously NOT TRUE! We also know that Jesus claimed to be God, so if he is not than again as I have said before he is a liar and thus not sinless and thus unable to die for our sins.

Matthew 28:19-20
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.
**We are to be baptized in the name of not only the Father but also the Son, this places the Son on equal footing with the Father, which again is either true or Jesus is a liar and thus not sinless and thus unable to die for our sins.

Philippians 2:5-11
Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
**Jesus being in what? The form of GOD and equal to God, which He cannot be with being God. Also it says he made himself of no reputation, so he came to earth, by who's power? his own. Then comes the part than is a stumbling block to so many. . .it says "Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name". Those that don't see this for what it is ignore the previous sentances, Jesus made himself nothing, became humble in the appearance of man. Thus God the Father had to bring him back, Jesus gave up his God nature(form) to become a man, he gave up his power for a time and the God RESTORED it to him.

I could go on and on. Do I know exactly how the mystery of ONE God, but THREE looks like and works?? NO of course not we know from scripture that the wisdom of man is foolishness when compared to God's wisdom. We are not meant to fully understand God, but to trust in faith that what the Bible teaches clearly is TRUE!
 
The Bible doesn't say God the Father God the Son N God the Holy Spirit u could look thru the whole Bible n u will never find that in it and when God said make man in our image he meant his inside n outside his spirit and his flesh we were made in the image of God we have a flesh and a Spirit as does God people get ths verse confuse they thinkg God is more than one because he said our image he meant his inside and out look at us we have a flesh and spirit but were still one person as is God God bless u
 
"My Lord and my God!" (John 20:28)


How much clearer can you get than that? Thomas is addressing Jesus here in the context (...and he said to Him...)

Yahshua is Called “God”


Jn 20:28 Thomas answered and said unto him, My Master and my God.
The English word “God,” is derived in the OT from the Hebrew “elohim,” and in the NT from the Greek “theos.”
#430 ‘elohiym; KJV – God 2346, god 244, judge 5, GOD 1, goddess 2, great 2, mighty 2, angels 1, exceeding 1, godly 1; total 2606; Definition: rulers, judges, divine ones, angels, gods or god, the (true) God.
#2316 theos; KJV – God 1320, god 13, godly 3, God-ward + 4214 2, misc 5; total 1343; Definition: a god or goddess, a general name of deities or divinities, spoken of the only and true God, refers to the things of God, of magistrates and judges.
As you can see by the definitions above the words “elohim” or “theos” do not solely apply only to the Father and the Son but can be given to angels, judges, rulers or any great or mighty person. Satan is termed god in 2Co 4:4, and the belly in Phil 3:19 as is Herod in Act 12:22. In Jn 10:34 Yahshua uses Ps.82:6 to counter the Jews charge, “That thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Yahshua answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken” (Jn 10:33-35). Elohim merely means a great or mighty one (see also Ex 22:9 & 28) and can certainly be applied to Yahshua, but the error takes place when Yahshua is classified as the one true “God,” the Almighty. Two verses clearly prove beyond a doubt that the Son is not the One True Almighty God, one spoken by Yahshua, the other by Paul.
Jn.17:3; “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (Yahweh the Father vs. 1) the only true God, and Yahshua Messiah, whom thou hast sent.”
1Cor.8: 4 As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one. 5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) 6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Master Yahshua Messiah, by whom are all things, and we by him.


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One God means one as in united not one as in singular.


ELOHIM - Singular or Plural?
By Voy Wilks
"Elohim though a plural form, can be treated as a singular, in which case it means the one supreme deity, ... and conveys the notion of all that belongs to the concept of deity, in contrast to man (Nu. 23:19) and other created beings. It is appropriate to world–wide relationships (Gen.1:1) because there is only one supreme and true G-d, and He is a person. ... Strictly speaking, Yahweh is the only 'name' of G-d. ... Yahweh, therefore, in contrast with Elohim, is a proper noun, the name of a person, though that person is divine" (The New Bible Dictionary, by J. D. Douglas; Eerdmans Publishing Company, Grand Rapids, Ml, 1979; pages 474, 475. Emphasis added).
Scriptures agree. Scriptures recognize only one Yahweh, one true El, one true Eloah, and one true Elohim.
There Is One Yahweh, Who Created All Things
Ps. 83:18 "Let them know that thou alone, whose name is Yahweh, art the Most High over all the earth" (RSV).
Neh. 9:6 "Thou art Yahweh, thou alone; thou hast made the heavens, the heaven of heavens, with all their hosts, the earth and all that is on it, the seas and all that is in them; ..." (RSV).
Prov. 30:4 "Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is his name, and what is his son’s name? Surely you know!"
Yahweh Alone Is the One True El
2 Sam. 22:32 "For who is El but Yahweh? And who is a rock, except our Elohim?"
Isa. 43:10, 11 “You [Jacob, Israel, verse 1] are my witnesses, says Yahweh, and my servant whom I have chosen, that you may know and believe me and understand that I am He. Before me no El was formed, nor shall there be any after me. I, I am Yahweh, and besides me there is no savior.”
Isa. 45:22 “For I am El and there is NO OTHER.”
Yahweh Alone Is the One True Eloah
Ps. 18:31 “For who is Eloah but Yahweh? And who is a rock except our Elohim?”
Ps. 114:4 "Tremble O earth, at the presence of Yahweh, at the presence of the Eloah of Jacob."
Yahweh Alone Is the One True Elohim
Isa. 44:6 "Thus says Yahweh, the king of Israel and his Redeemer, Yahweh of hosts: I am the first and the last; besides me there is no Elohim."
Isa. 45:5, 6 "I am Yahweh, and there is NO other, besides me there is NO Elohim; I gird you, though you do not know me that MEN MAY KNOW, from the rising of the sun and from the west, that there is NONE BESIDES ME. I am Yahweh, and there is NO OTHER."
Isa. 45:18 "For thus says Yahweh who created the heavens (He is Elohim!), (sic) who formed the earth and made it; ... I am Yahweh, and there is NO OTHER."
Isa. 45:21 "Who declared it of old? Was it not I, Yahweh? And there is NO OTHER EIohim besides ME a righteous El and a Savior; there is NONE BESIDES ME."
Singular Titles

  • Yahweh is the only true El (singular).
  • Yahweh is the only true Eloah (singular).
  • Yahweh is the only true Elohim (singular when denoting Yahweh).
When used to denote the idols of the nations, elohim is a plural word, but when used to denote Yahweh, it is a singular word – indicating his majesty and his many attributes. As is commonly known, in English there are many words used as both singular and plural in which the spelling is identical. In addition to the word elohim, the Hebrew language too contains other words which serve as both singular and plural, some of which appear below.
Waters
Mayim #4325 (waters) appear in the text of the Old Testament about 570 times. Apparently it is always written as a plural (waters), no matter how little or how much water is spoken of. Mr. Strong comments as follows:
Mayim: Dual of a prime noun (but used in a singular sense); water …” (Emphasis added).
Heavens
Shamayim # 8064, “Dual from a unused singular.”
Shamayim #8064: "Plural, meaning heaven (from an unused singular)" (Gesenius Hebrew Lexicon). Only the plural appears in Scriptures, translated both heaven and heavens.
Face(s)
Paniym #6440: "Plural (but always as singular) of an unused noun" (Strong's Concordance).
"And Yahweh spake unto Moses face to face as a man speaketh to his friend" (Ex. 33:11 KJV). The Hebrew reads, "panim el panim;" two plurals as if both Moses and Yahweh each had two or more faces. Panim: always written in the plural, even when referring to only one face (Theoloqical Word Book of the O.T., by Harris, Archer, & Waltke; Moody Press, Chicago; 1980, #1782a).
From Him – From Us
In the Hebrew language there is a word which can mean either "from him" or "from us.” Written identically in either case, only its use in the sentence determines which meaning is intended; him or us (A Practical Grammar for Classical Hebrew, by J. Weingreen, M.A., Ph. D., 2nd Edition; Oxford University Press, NY; #33).
This can be confirmed in the NIV Interlinear Hebrew/English O.T. by comparing Gen. 3:3, 4, 10, 18 with Gen. 3:22).
English Words
Many English words are used both in the singular and in plural sense; such as off-spring and you. Some of these end with "S" but can mean one or more, while others have no "S" but can mean one or more; either singular or plural. As a reminder of this truth, here is listed only a few such words.



Tweezers
Deer
Cotton
Spanish
Scissors
Sheep
Wheat
Wendish
Pliers
Moose
Barley
Chinese
Plants
Caribou
Corn
Sioux
Trousers
Squid
Okra
Cheyenne


Personal Pronouns Make Elohim Singular
Rarely do plural pronouns accompany the title Elohim when it refers to the Supreme Being, while in thousands of Scriptures Elohim is shown to be singular by its accompanying singular, personal pronouns: I, me, mine, my, myself, he, his, him, himself, etc, (underlined in the Scriptures noted above). For examples, let us examine the testimony of men who knew – men well acquainted with Elohim and with the Hebrew language – King David and the Prophet Isaiah.
David wrote a song in praise to Yahweh, calling him both El and Elohim. More than 35 times in this song, singular pronouns accompany these titles (2 Sam. 22). Isaiah does the same. More than 40 times in chapters 45 and 46 Isaiah uses singular, personal pronouns with Yahweh/Elohim, indicating this title is indeed singular when it denotes the one, true Yahweh.
"Remember this and consider, recall it to mind, you transgressors, remember the former things of old; for I am El, and there is no other; I am Elohim, and-there is none like me, … (Isa. 46:9).

Elohim – Not A Dual Deity
There is another word which emphatically points out that Elohim is one person, not two, three, or a dozen. This word is ONE. Many times Yahweh/Elohim is called "the holy one of Israel, "the Mighty one of hosts, etc. Let us at this time review a few of these references.
"Hear, O Israel: Yahweh our Elohim is ONE Yahweh; and you shall love Yahweh your Elohim with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might" (Deut. 6:4, 5).
"For your Maker is your husband Yahweh of hosts is his name; and the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer, the Elohim of the whole earth he is called" (Isa. 54:5).
"And one of the scribes came, and ... asked him, What commandment is first of all? Yahshua answered, The first is, Hear, O Israel; Yahweh is our Elohim, Yahweh is ONE: and you shall love Yahweh your Elohim with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength. ... And the scribe said to him, Of a truth, Teacher, you have well said that he is ONE; and there is NONE other but HE: and to love him with all the heart, ... And When Yahshua saw that he answered discreetly, he said to him, You are not far from the kingdom of Yahweh" (Mk.12:28-34 B.E.).
The word which is translated one is from the Hebrew word echad, a number, as in one, two, three, etc. Used as it is in Scriptures, this little word tells us what has been pointed out above – that Elohim is singular (one person), when referring to Yahweh. Other helping words, "I am (instead of "we are"); "Elohim is" (instead of "Elohim are"); etc., tell us there is (1) only one Yahweh, and (2) only one true Elohim.
The Witch of Endor
When King Saul was in desperate trouble, he visited the witch of Endor who, to her own astonishment, brought up an apparition of the Prophet Samuel. Saul asked her, " ... what sawest thou? I saw gods [elohim] ascending out of the earth. And he said unto her, What form is he of? And she said, An old man cometh up; … And Saul perceived it was Samuel, ..." (1 Sam. 28:13,14 KJV).
This account is helpful because it reveals that elohim, though technically a plural word, sometimes indicates only one person. This elohim was "he," not they or them. "An old man," instead of "old men" tells us, as noted above, that elohim, though generally a plural word, is sometimes used in the singular sense. Please notice other Scriptures in which the plural elohim refers to only one god (an idol), and even a goddess.
"Will you not possess what Chemosh your god [elohim] gives you to possess?" (Jude11:24).
" ... Go, inquire of Baalzebub, the god [elohim] of Ekron, whether I shall recover from this sickness" (2 Kings 1:2).
"For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess [elohim] of the Sidonians, ..." (1Kings 11:5).
As indicated below, reference books tell us that Elohim, when referring to the Supreme Being, denotes only one person.
"The two essential and personal names of G-d in the Hebrew Scriptures are Elohim and Jehovah (more correctly Yahweh); the former calling attention to the fullness of divine power, the latter meaning – "He who is," and thus declaring the divine "Self-existence". G-ds (Hebrew = elohim): This term for deity is used in a threefold sense of the One True G-d in the plural of majesty or excellence" (Unqer's Bible Dictionary, by Merrill F. Unger, 3rd Edition; Moody Press, Chicago; 1981, Article: G-d, pages 409-411).
Elohim: "... the singular form [Eloah] is only used in poetry and in the later Hebrew; Elohim, the plural of majesty occurs, on the other hand, more than 2,000 times" (Gesenius' Hebrew Lexicon of the Old Testament, by H. W. F. Gesenius; Baker Book House, 1979, Grand Rapids, MI; page 49, #430, 433).
"Elohim. G-d, gods, judges, angels. ... The plural ending is usually described as a plural of majesty and not intended as a true plural when used of G-d. This is seen in the fact that the noun 'elohim is consistently used with singular verb forms and with adjectives and pronouns in the singular. ... The term occurs in the general sense of deity some 2,570 times. Yet, as Pope has indicated, it is difficult to detect any discrepancy in use between the forms 'el, 'eloah, and 'elohim" (Theological Word Book of the Old Testament, by Harris, Archer, & Waltke; Moody Press, Chicago; 1980, Vol. 1; Article: Elohim; page 44, #93c).
"Elohim (eh lo him), is a name used in the Old Testament for G-d. It is the plural form of the Hebrew word Eloah (G-d). Elohim means the plural majesty of the ONE G-d. The word is found in the first sentence of the Bible, 'In the beginning G-d (Elohim) created the heavens and the earth;' Gen. 1:1" (The World Book Encyclopedia, Vol. 6; 1981, Page 194).
"The first form of the divine [title] in the Bible is Elohim, ... It is one of a group of words, to which belong EL and Eloah. Its form is plural, but the construction is uniformly singular, that is, it governs a singular verb or adjective, unless used of heathen divinities (Ps. 96:5; 97:7). It is characteristic of Hebrew that extension, and dignity, [as well as multiplicity], * are expressed by the plural. It is not reasonable, therefore, to assume that plurality of form indicates primitive Semitic polytheism. On the contrary, historic Hebrew is unquestionably and uniformly monotheistic. … It is the reasonable conclusion

  • That the meaning is "might" or "power."
  • That it is common to Semitic language;
  • That the form is plural to express majesty or all-mightiness , and
  • That it is a generic [term], rather than a specific name ..." (The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, Eerdmans Publishing Company; 1984, Vol. 2; Article: G-d; Subtitle, Elohim, page 1265). (Emphasis have been added throughout this article).
Elohim: used as a singular noun when referring to the one and only Yahweh – the unique Yahweh. Let us praise him as one – Elohim – Yahweh.



*The bracketed phrase was included to lend support to the doctrine of the Trinity, so it need not be taken seriously.

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Do you not realize that even secular Jewish scholars state that Jesus was killed because he claimed to be GOD, so either he was who he claimed to be or he was a liar and thus a sinner just like us and unable to die for our sins. Stop trying to twist what Jesus himself claimed and pretend he meant something else. Too many people take the concept of a God that is 3 (WHICH IS IN THE BIBLE) but also one and dispute it. Why? Because like the pharisees of Jesus' time, they want God to fit inside their box of what they can understand. Just because we have a hard time understanding how it works, does not mean we shouldn't accept that which the Bible teaches.

Nowhere in Scripture does it ever teach ""Jesus IS God!". Actually, nowhere in Scripture does Yahshua ever claim to be "God" and he most certainly never proclaimed this to the Sanhedrin (Jewish leaders). Note that it is taught in the so-called "New Testament" that Sanhedrin (Jewish leaders) were constantly out to entrap Yahshua in his words. Whose side are we to take? Are we to take Yahshua's side and believe what it is that he proclaimed, that he was the SON of Yahweh ["God"] or are we to take the Sanhedrin's side who were constantly out to entrap Yahshua in his words and who falsely accused him of breaking the Sabbath? I believe that they falsely accused Yahshua of making himself out to be "God" just as they had falsely accused him of breaking the Sabbath. He claimed to be the Messiah the SON of Yahweh ["God"]. Again, we no for a fact that Yahweh was Yahshua's Father, since he is frequently recorded in the so-called "New Testament" as referring to Him as his and our Father WHO IN IN HEAVEN when he himself WAS HERE ON EARTH (or "IN THE WORLD). FATHER Yahweh is also recorded in this same section of Scripture as referring to Yahshua as His SON.

Did Yahshua Messiah Break The Sabbath?
 
really? What about:

Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God(Hebrew word used here is Elohim which is a plural word) created the heavens and the earth. **Note also Jewish scholars from hundreds of years before Jesus came into this world interpreted this as: In the beginning, by(or with) the Firstborn, God created the heavens in the earth

Genesis 1:26-27
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
**Who is us? God, one but three

Genesis 11:5-8
But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower which the sons of men had built. And the Lord said, “Indeed the people are one and they all have one language, and this is what they begin to do; now nothing that they propose to do will be withheld from them. Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.” So the Lord scattered them abroad from there over the face of all the earth, and they ceased building the city.
**Again who is us? God, one but three

I COULD keep going in the old testament but will move to the new because Jesus is the question of this post.

John 1:1-3
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
**The Word was WITH God and the Word WAS God. So who is this Word? Jesus! we find later in the passage that the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, that is Jesus. So Jesus was with God and WAS God. Now some like the Jehovah's Witnesses change it to say that the Word was a God, which is messed up because we are told in many places that all other 'gods' are false gods. So if Jesus was just a 'god' then he is false and thus not sinless and thus unable to die for our sins. Also then all things were made through a false god. . .which is obviously NOT TRUE! We also know that Jesus claimed to be God, so if he is not than again as I have said before he is a liar and thus not sinless and thus unable to die for our sins.

Matthew 28:19-20
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.
**We are to be baptized in the name of not only the Father but also the Son, this places the Son on equal footing with the Father, which again is either true or Jesus is a liar and thus not sinless and thus unable to die for our sins.

Philippians 2:5-11
Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
**Jesus being in what? The form of GOD and equal to God, which He cannot be with being God. Also it says he made himself of no reputation, so he came to earth, by who's power? his own. Then comes the part than is a stumbling block to so many. . .it says "Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name". Those that don't see this for what it is ignore the previous sentances, Jesus made himself nothing, became humble in the appearance of man. Thus God the Father had to bring him back, Jesus gave up his God nature(form) to become a man, he gave up his power for a time and the God RESTORED it to him.

I could go on and on. Do I know exactly how the mystery of ONE God, but THREE looks like and works?? NO of course not we know from scripture that the wisdom of man is foolishness when compared to God's wisdom. We are not meant to fully understand God, but to trust in faith that what the Bible teaches clearly is TRUE!

LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR IMAGE
Genesis 1:26,27

By Voy Wilks
8/31/98


"Then Elohim said, 'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness'" (Gen. 1:26, RSV).

Monotheism means one. Any person who believes in the Trinity or the Duality cannot properly claim to believe in Monotheism. The reason being, Trinity means three, Duality means two, while Monotheism means one - One theos, or One Elohim, not two, three, or a dozen. Of course,, Trinitarians and Dualists will heartily disagree, but this is fact. This is Truth. Monotheism means ONE. Perhaps a better term is Mono-el-ism; ONE EL.

Let Us

Because the words us and our appear in Genesis 1:26, "Let us make man in our images and our likeness, Trinitarians say, "Ah ha! This proves the Trinity." But surprise: Dualist say, "Ah ha! This proves the Duality of Yahweh." Isn't this amazing? It seems we have a choice. Based on these two little words, we can believe in the Trinity, or we can believe in Duality, all the while referring to these as Monotheism. Amazing!

After this astonishing revelation, let us now look at Genesis 1:27:

"So Elohim created man in HIS own image, in the image of Elohim HE created him; male and female HE created them."

Comparison

Genesis 1:26 contains three plural pronouns. Genesis 1:27 contains three singular pronouns. All refer to the same person - the Creator. If Trinitarians and Dualists can ignore verse 27 with its singular pronouns, perhaps I should have the privilege of ignoring verse 26 with its plural pronouns. I speak lightly, of course, to encourage thought and study. My preference is, none of us should ignore Biblical Scripture as originally given.

Image and Likeness

Have you noticed? Image and likeness are not plural words, but singular; in Hebrew as well as English. Dr. Bullinger pointed this out, even though he was a Trinitarian. Elohim made man in the image of Elohim, not images of Elohim. This indicates the image (singular) of one person, not two or three persons. The same is true of likeness. The word is singular.

A Translator's Footnote (Gen. 1:26)

RSV Harper Study Bible, notes by Harold Lindsell.
"Let us make man. Many interpret us to mean the Trinity, ... but probably early readers understood the word as the plural of majesty, just as the plural Elohim (Hebrew) is used of God to denote his majesty and attributes. Another possible interpretation is the picture of God consulting with his angelic court, the host of heaven (1 Kings 22:19), or the sons of God (Job 1:6)." (Emphasis added).

It is interesting to note that Harold Lindsell believed in the Trinity, indicated by his note on Mt. 28:19, nevertheless he realized Gen. 1:26 does not promote the Trinity. He spoke of "early readers" who understood the word as the plural of majesty. "Early readers" would be the Saints of antiquity and the disciples of the first century C.E. who had no knowledge of Duality or Trinity (See The Christian Doctrine of God, Vol. 1, by the noted Theologian, Emil Brunner, pages 205-237; published by Westminister Press, Philadelphia, 1946).

The Reference: 1st Kings 22:19

When we consult the reference given by Mr. Lindsell (2 Kings 22:19), we see that his point is certainly worth considering:

"And Micaiah said, 'Therefore hear the word of Yahweh: I saw Yahweh sitting on his throne, and all of the host of heaven standing beside him on his right hand and on his left; and Yahweh said,

"'Who will entice Ahab that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-Gilead?' And one said one thing and another said another. Then a spirit came forward and stood before Yahweh, saying, 'I will entice him.' And Yahweh said to him, 'By what means?'

"'I will go forth and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all of his prophets.' And he said, 'You are to entice him, and you shall succeed; go forth and do so.'

"Now therefore behold, Yahweh has put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these your prophets; Yahweh has spoken evil concerning you" (1 Kings 22:19-22, RSV).

We see that Yahweh consulted with his celestial court on this occasion. He may have done the same in the beginning (Gen. 1:26). His celestial court consisted of the following:

(1) Yahweh
(2) The angels. Note Yahshua was never an angel (Heb. 1:5,13).
(3) The living creatures (the living beasts); that is, the Cherubim.
(4) No one else was present, apparently.

Footnote, Genesis 1:26

New English Bible
"The plural us (Gen. 3:22; 11:7) may be a majestic plural, or else refer to minor divine beings thought to surround God, like the courtiers of a human king (1 Kings 22:19-22)."

Only One Yahweh & Only One True El

Since there is only one Yahweh and only one true El (Deut. 6:4; Neh. 9:6; John 17:3), this confirms Yahshua was not present in the beginning (1) as the Creator, or (2) as a second Yahweh (Gen. 1:26); nor was he present in the days of Ahab (1 Kings 22:19).

"To you it was shown, that you might know that Yahweh is Elohim; there is no other besides HIM. ... know therefore this day, and lay it to your heart, that Yahweh is Elohim in heaven above and on earth beneath; there is no other" (Deut. 4:35,39, RSV).

Deut. 6:4

Hear, O Israel: Yahweh our Elohim is ONE Yahweh, ..." (Deut. 6:4).

One is translated from the Hebrew word echad, equal in every respect to the English word, one. Echad is a cardinal number, meaning one as in one, two, three, etc. A cardinal number establishes how many, whereas an ordinal number establishes a place in a sequence, such as first, second, third, etc. Yahweh is not first among several. Instead, he is the ONE true El; the ONLY Yahweh who exist (2 Sam. 22:32; Ps. 83:18; Isa. 43:10; 44:6; 45:5,6,21,22; Mark 12:28-32; Luke 18:19; Rev. 15:4).

There are more than sixty Scriptures which declare there is one Yahweh; one true Elohim so, is it rational to ignore 60 Scriptures in preference to three little words in Genesis 1:26?

Conclusion

Since there are more than sixty Scriptures which declare there is one Yahweh, the evidence indicates we must accept the three plural pronouns in Genesis 1:26 as Mr. Lindsell suggested:

(1) As the plural of majesty, not as a plurality of persons; a plurality of Deities, or

(2) Accept the view that the only Yahweh who exists consulted with his Angelic Court, as illustrated in 2 Kings 22:19.

Scriptures do not support the doctrine of the Trinity, neither do they support the doctrine of Duality of Deities. Scriptures teach Monotheism; One Yahweh - One true El.

"You believe that Yahweh is one; you do well; the demons believe also, and tremble" (James 2:19).

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THE HEBREW WORD translated“God”throughout the Old Testament is the
word Elohim. This word appears 2570 times. Some have said that because this
word is a plural noun, it indicates that God is a plural being, that He is one God,
yet simultaneously three distinct divine persons–the Father, the Son, and the Holy
Spirit...the trinity. But in Hebrew, plurality not only indicates more than one, it
also indicate bigness or greatness or vastness. For example, the word mayim
meaning“water”is also a plural form.
So is shamayim meaning“heaven.”Heaven
is big!
Genesis 1:1 says,“In the beginning God created....”The verb“created”is in the
singular form, proving that Elohim is intended to be taken as a singular noun.
When Elohim was first translated into Greek by Jewish scholars, they selected the
word Theos, which is a singular noun. They never used Theoi, the plural form,
which is translated“gods.”To say that the fact that Elohim is plural proves that
God is a plural being is to read into this word a meaning that simply isn’t there.
Galatians 3:20 says,“Now a mediator does not mediate for one only, but God is
one [Theos eis esti]. James 2:19 says,“You believe that there is one God [Theos
eis esti]. You do well. Even the demons believe; and tremble!”Even the demons
know that God is ONE!
 
“Let us make man in our image...”?
GENESIS 1:26 SAYS,“Then God (Elohim) said,‘Let Us make man in Our
image, according to Our likeness....’”What did God mean when He said“Us”?3
Some say this was the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit speaking together as one God.
But Job 38:4-7 tells us,“Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?
Tell Me, if you have understanding. Who determined its measurements? Surely you
know! Or who stretched the line upon it? To what were its foundations fastened?
Or who laid its cornerstone, when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons
of God shouted for joy?”
In the OT the term“sons of God”always refers to angels. Throughout the life of
Jesus we see angels in action—at His birth, in the wilderness, at Gethsemene, at
the resurrection and the ascension. Throughout the book of Acts we also see
angels involved with the people of God. Hebrews 1:14 says that angels are sent to
minister to the“heirs of salvation.”Clearly angels are involved in the ongoing
process of“making man”into the image of God. Similar language is found in
Genesis 11:7 and Isaiah 6 where God is clearly speaking to angels.
Genesis 1:27 says,“So God [Elohim] created man in His own image....”Through
the new birth each of us can be made into the image of God; yet none of us have
plural identities or personalities. Each of us is only ONE PERSON! Genesis 3:22
says,“Then the LORD God said,‘Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to
know good and evil.’”2 Samuel 14:17 says,“The word of my lord the king will
now be comforting; for as the angel of God, so is my lord the king in discerning
good and evil.”Is it really so unreasonable to believe that the Creator spoke with
angels?
 
The Bible doesn't say God the Father God the Son N God the Holy Spirit u could look thru the whole Bible n u will never find that in it and when God said make man in our image he meant his inside n outside his spirit and his flesh we were made in the image of God we have a flesh and a Spirit as does God people get ths verse confuse they thinkg God is more than one because he said our image he meant his inside and out look at us we have a flesh and spirit but were still one person as is God God bless u

I believe that when Father Yahweh said "US" and "OUR" that He was speaking to the heavenly host ["angels"] that He had previously created.

LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR IMAGE