If GOD The Father has made His Abode in you with His Son, how is He not Seeing your New sins?

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Pilgrimshope

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[Isa 1:15 KJV] And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.
[Isa 1:16 KJV] Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;

[Jas 4:8 KJV] Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.

But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.”
‭‭James‬ ‭1:21-22‬ ‭

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.

Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom.

For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:35-38, 46‬ ‭KJV‬‬

gotta accept the New Testament word that saves souls that’s what James is talking about

So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.”
‭‭James‬ ‭2:12-13‬ ‭

you should read the sermon on the Mount and learn who’s word you need to repent and believe and stop trying to find verses to judge people you have never met
 

Pilgrimshope

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Oh good. So you recognize that words may have multiple meanings.

How many meanings does the Hebrew word nāḇaṭ have? It's the word used for "look".

I'll help: among its ten meanings, it can mean "respect" or "show deference to".

Now, unless you think God is really "holding His tongue" in His hand (holding one's tongue is a phrase that requires understanding apart from syntax), Habakkuk likely was using figurative words to paint a word picture.

Also, to say that "God cannot look on sin" limits God who is "all-powerful". Furthermore, @Pilgrimshope provided some scripture to show how one should not come to the conclusion that God cannot "look" at sin. You should look into what he provided.
It’s a ridiculous thought huh ?

“And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭6:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

of course God sees mans sin it cannot be hidden from him its why he created the process of atonement for mans sin and why people need To understand Jesus death for thier sin and resurrection , so desperately.

 

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Pilgrimshope

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When we come to Jesus and are born again, we become His children and remain so despite not being perfect in the absolute sense. Our Father has made provision for us to confess and repent and do the best we can.
Amen a father, is also a teacher when it’s time to learn life lessons , we respect and revere him . He’s a forgiving friend when we need one , a protector when there’s danger , a wise and understanding advisor when we need truthful answers a counselor and comforter when we’re broken and contrite

“The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: A broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭51:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

all good fathers on earth forgive thier children easily and quickly for a wrong even if there’s a consequence and even if happens more than once

the father of a child doesn’t hold grudges against them how much better of a father is God than good earthly fathers ?

this isn’t the fathers way , a father looks at the mistake he sees it doesn’t ignore it reprimand , correction , warning whatever it needs

abut he sees it also as a chance to teach the child a lesson , give a word of warning and advice but still Embraces him because he has acknowledged and taken responsibility for his sin, maybe there’s a rebuke good fathers always do that when necassary , but never is he going to forsake his children. not ever

But they aren’t captive and can freely choose the swine living also
 

Pilgrimshope

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[Isa 1:15 KJV] And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.
[Isa 1:16 KJV] Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;

[Jas 4:8 KJV] Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
“Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭18:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭5:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

What now ? Leave all mankind in death for thier sin ?

Or send a messiah , a savior and atonement for thier sins , a good shepherd and brother and friend and commander and leader an author and finisher, an alpha and omega to save them from sin and death ? with a new and better covenant that gives life to those already guilty of sin and condemned to death ?

“death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭

I dont really disagree with you about obedience , I just think your looking at the wrong law of the wrong testament

Jesus teaches another world of things To people that are already deemed sinners to redeem them
 
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If JESUS is GOD ...and JESUS isn't physically a Human anymore ...JESUS is back to being The Father. You monsters try to make JESUS not The CHRIST so that you can pretend The Father is separate and can't See your new sins.
 

NotmebutHim

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If JESUS is GOD ...and JESUS isn't physically a Human anymore ...JESUS is back to being The Father. You monsters try to make JESUS not The CHRIST so that you can pretend The Father is separate and can't See your new sins.
Aaaand...........there it is.

This comes across as being anti-trinitarian and/or modalist.

You don't seem to be arguing in good faith; the "monsters" comment is evidence of that.
 
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Aaaand...........there it is.

This comes across as being anti-trinitarian and/or modalist.

You don't seem to be arguing in good faith; the "monsters" comment is evidence of that.
You can have any excuse you want to burn.
 
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How else would any man be able to enter the Kingdom of God?

Please show us the way. (Your way.)
[Eph 2:10 KJV] For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

We Walk in them ...we don't use JESUS' Dead Corpse to Walk It for us.


Has this happened for you or not?
[Rom 6:5-8 KJV] For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
[6] Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
[7] For he that is dead is freed from sin.
[8] Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

John 8:34
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

Heb 9:14
How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

Gal 5:24
And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
 

NotmebutHim

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Is it starting to get hot in here, or is it just me? :rolleyes:
 

oyster67

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[Eph 2:10 KJV] For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

We Walk in them ...we don't use JESUS' Dead Corpse to Walk It for us.
Sooooo... if you are saved by your good works, I can understand why you would refer to Jesus' sacrifice as a DEAD Corpse. You obviously have no need for it.
 

NotmebutHim

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The Apostle John wrote in 1 John (Chapters 1 &2) that (paraphrasing):

1. We deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us if we say we have no sin.

2. God is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from unrighteousness if we confess our sins to Him.

3. John wrote to us (what is in Chapter 1) so that we may not sin. But if/when we do sin, Jesus Christ the righteous is the One who advocates on our behalf with the Father.

4. John wrote to believers, not the unsaved/unregenerate.

Proverbs also says that no one can truthfully say that he/she has a clean heart and is pure from sin.
 

NotmebutHim

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So, OP, do you deny the bodily resurrection of Christ Jesus?

EDIT: Just saw that the OP is banned. Can't say I'm surprised.