If GOD The Father has made His Abode in you with His Son, how is He not Seeing your New sins?

[Reborn-Adopted]

The whole gimmick is to say GOD doesn't see your sin because CHRIST should be in you ...but there is a problem with that ...JESUS is GOD ...and GOD The Father should be in you also. are you pretending He doesn't See your separation (sin) in the Relationship you should have with Him? imputed righteousness was started by martin luther and said it was like walking into paradise ...he was talking about living in sin.

[Jhn 14:23 KJV] Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.


Sacrificial Blood was for your death with Him that most refuse to do ...that means Denying yourself new willful sins ...that means Fully Repenting ...that means ending your worldly old man. Romans 6

The Adopted have CHRIST'S Law Written in their hearts. LIFE to make the Righteous choices of a Living Conscience.


The following isn't Saying JESUS will Walk past The Door ...He is Saying He will Come into you as you Walk past The Door. Remember, His Kingdom is inside you.

[Rev 3:20 KJV] Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

You can't be Forgiven for a death sin on The Living Side of The Cross. The Sacrificial Blood is back on The Passover Door that most said they already Walked through to become Reborn.

They put LAMB'S Blood on their Doorframes for Passover.

[Exo 12:22 KJV] And ye shall take a bunch of hyssop, and dip it in the blood that is in the bason, and strike the lintel and the two side posts with the blood that is in the bason; and none of you shall go out at the door of his house until the morning.
[Exo 12:23 KJV] For the LORD will pass through to smite the Egyptians; and when he seeth the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side posts, the LORD will pass over the door, and will not suffer the destroyer to come in unto your houses to smite you.

[Rev 3:7 NKJV] "And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write, 'These things says He who is holy, He who is true, "He who has the key of David, He who opens and no one shuts, and shuts and no one opens":

[Psa 84:10 KJV] For a day in thy courts is better than a thousand. I had rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God, than to dwell in the tents of wickedness.

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

We don't have to go to a literal Cross like our Example (The Son Of Man) ...so quit complaining and stop your sins. It's the least you can do.

[Heb 12:4 KJV] Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.

[Rom 12:1 KJV] I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

The Way is using His Grace to prevent new sins ...not to keep doing them.

His sheep hear His Voice because His Law is Written to their Circumcised hearts ...a Living Conscience. You don't choose or excuse willful sin when on The Living Side of The Cross.

 

[oyster67]

The whole gimmick is to say GOD doesn't see your sin because CHRIST should be in you ...but there is a problem with that ...JESUS is GOD ...and GOD The Father should be in you also. are you pretending He doesn't See your separation (sin) in the Relationship you should have with Him? imputed righteousness was started by martin luther and said it was like walking into paradise ...he was talking about living in sin.

God is not oblivious or blind to our sins. He chooses not to impute them to us because He views us through the blood of Jesus.

 

[oyster67]

Romans 7:25
“I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.”

Romans 8:1
“There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.”

 

[tourist]

@oyster67 concisely answered the thread's question.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

God is not oblivious or blind to our sins. He chooses not to impute them to us because He views us through the blood of Jesus.

Yes surprisingly God actually is merciful to his beloved creation like a father you don’t throw your kids out because they mess up once or break a rule you do everything you can to teach and help them along the way because you actually love them of course God sees l things sin and righteousness


the thing is he loves us like his children not like hired servants we aren’t expendable to him we have massive value and worth in his eyes enough to spill His blood on the cross to save us knowing already that none of us is perfect

If we wouldn’t throw our kids away for making some mistakes why would God throw his kids away because they weren’t perfect ?


“For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4:12-13‬ ‭

He sees all and we do have to answer for every word and deed we refuse ti repent of but we’re blessed because he is merciful and he will keep his word so if we accept his word now and live by it we can understand our Gods Will

 

[John146]

Yes surprisingly God actually is merciful to his beloved creation like a father you don’t throw your kids out because they mess up once or break a rule you do everything you can to teach and help them along the way because you actually love them of course God sees l things sin and righteousness


the thing is he loves us like his children not like hired servants we aren’t expendable to him we have massive value and worth in his eyes enough to spill His blood on the cross to save us knowing already that none of us is perfect

If we wouldn’t throw our kids away for making some mistakes why would God throw his kids away because they weren’t perfect ?


“For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4:12-13‬ ‭

He sees all and we do have to answer for every word and deed we refuse ti repent of but we’re blessed because he is merciful and he will keep his word so if we accept his word now and live by it we can understand our Gods Will

And yet...

Habakkuk 1:13 Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity: wherefore lookest thou upon them that deal treacherously, and holdest thy tongue when the wicked devoureth the man that is more righteous than he?

God the Father had to turn from his Son when his Son became sin for us.

 

[oyster67]

had to turn

Must have knowledge in order to know when to turn. (If it applies to us.)

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Romans 7:25
“I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.”

Romans 8:1
“There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.”

“There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free

from the law of sin and death.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭8:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The law of sin and death

“Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

This is sin says the law

“Thou shalt not commit adultery.”
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭20:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

And it is death says the law

“And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.”
‭‭Leviticus‬ ‭20:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

All have sinned and so all is lost

“Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭18:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:23‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The law did it’s job all have sinned and are guilty before God

“what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God”

Who can save man now ? Gods word declares all must die “oh the wretched man cries out who can save me from the body of this death ?”

Christ Jesus and The law of spirit and life which holds no condemnation

“But I’ve sinned so I must die !”

“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“The law and the prophets were until John: ( the Baptist )

since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭16:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

what about my life now ? I’m not under Moses law anymore because I died with Christ and my sins are paid for now what ?

“Hearken unto me, my people; and give ear unto me, O my nation: for a law shall proceed from me, and I will make my judgment to rest for a light of the people. My righteousness is near; my salvation is gone forth, and mine arms shall judge the people; the isles shall wait upon me, and on mine arm shall they trust.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭51:4-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

His law of the spirit

“It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:63‬ ‭KJV‬‬

His law of life that holds no condemnation for believers

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the New Testament has delivered us from the old covenant and it’s curse of death for mans sin

 

[Pilgrimshope]

And yet...

Habakkuk 1:13 Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity: wherefore lookest thou upon them that deal treacherously, and holdest thy tongue when the wicked devoureth the man that is more righteous than he?

God the Father had to turn from his Son when his Son became sin for us.

Why was Jesus too evil to look upon ? I’m not grasping how that verse says anything about God having to look away from Jesus on the cross I have heard this before but never have read it or seen a scripture

“Behold, the hour cometh, yea, is now come, that ye shall be scattered, every man to his own, and shall leave me alone: and yet I am not alone, because the Father is with me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭16:32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

are you thinking because Jesus quotes psalm 22 as another fulfillment of the prophets and psalms on the cross God forsook him on the cross ?

“I and my Father are one.”
‭‭John‬ ‭10:30‬ ‭KJV‬‬

This is Jesus before he came speaking through prophets

“Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment. And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor:

therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him. For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke.

According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence.

So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.

And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.

As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭59:15-21‬ ‭

it’s him he came and did a new thing to save us it’s him telling us beforehand he was coming to intercede for mankind it’s him doing this

“Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭42:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He became a man in order to save mankind

“Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; and deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:14-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

man was lost in sin and bound to death by the law no one was going to make it so he became th perfect man in order to intercede for sinners and save us

Jesus is showing us the perfect man the perfect son of God , but it’s him he lowered himself down to us in death in order to save us and lift us up to him in life

 

[John146]

Must have knowledge in order to know when to turn. (If it applies to us.)

Knowledge, yes...but our holy God cannot look upon sin.

 

[John146]

Why was Jesus too evil to look upon ? I’m not grasping how that verse says anything about God having to look away from Jesus on the cross I have heard this before but never have read it or seen a scripture

“Behold, the hour cometh, yea, is now come, that ye shall be scattered, every man to his own, and shall leave me alone: and yet I am not alone, because the Father is with me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭16:32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

are you thinking because Jesus quotes psalm 22 as another fulfillment of the prophets and psalms on the cross God forsook him on the cross ?

“I and my Father are one.”
‭‭John‬ ‭10:30‬ ‭KJV‬‬

This is Jesus before he came speaking through prophets

“Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment. And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor:

therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him. For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke.

According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence.

So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.

And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.

As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭59:15-21‬ ‭

it’s him he came and did a new thing to save us it’s him telling us beforehand he was coming to intercede for mankind it’s him doing this

“Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭42:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He became a man in order to save mankind

“Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; and deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:14-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

man was lost in sin and bound to death by the law no one was going to make it so he became th perfect man in order to intercede for sinners and save us

Jesus is showing us the perfect man the perfect son of God , but it’s him he lowered himself down to us in death in order to save us and lift us up to him in life

He is no longer addressing God as his Father, but my God. Christ had become sin for us and the Father had to forsake him.

Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

 

[ResidentAlien]

"The eyes of the LORD are in every place, keeping watch on the evil and the good." Proverbs 15:3

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Knowledge, yes...but our holy God cannot look upon sin.

Jesus came for sinners because he saw them lost in their sin and knew they were lost in death

Our God purified sinners of thier sins , his righteousness is what matters as it shines in our hearts in eradicates sin destroys sin forgives the sinner and washes thier sins away

this is how God feels about sinners who come to him in need of salvation and love

“And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster box of ointment,

( a Pharisee is noticing how Jesus isn’t bothered by this terrible sinful woman she’s unclean he says jesusnis letting him touch her with her unclean sinful hands )

…..And he turned to the woman, and said unto Simon, Seest thou this woman? I entered into thine house, thou gavest me no water for my feet: but she hath washed my feet with tears, and wiped them with the hairs of her head. Thou gavest me no kiss: but this woman since the time I came in hath not ceased to kiss my feet. My head with oil thou didst not anoint: but this woman hath anointed my feet with ointment.

Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.

And he said unto her, Thy sins are forgiven. And they that sat at meat with him began to say within themselves, Who is this that forgiveth sins also? And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭7:37, 44-50‬ ‭KJV‬‬

jesus is actually the only one who does see sinners and of course knows and sees thier deeds good or bad

The glory of our God the true God is that he looks past thier mistakes and the uncleanness that self righteous people look at them through and sees the person the broken and beautiful person humbled and overlooked cast aside by the righteous society but the lord of glory came and chose them for eternal glory with him

he’s looking at thier heart for him not the sin they and everyone else has done he’s looking for the righteousness the love the faith in man he can do the repairs we need done , he can make us able he can lead the way we just need to depend on Jesus and his word

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

Why was Jesus too evil to look upon ? I’m not grasping how that verse says anything about God having to look away from Jesus on the cross I have heard this before but never have read it or seen a scripture

“Behold, the hour cometh, yea, is now come, that ye shall be scattered, every man to his own, and shall leave me alone: and yet I am not alone, because the Father is with me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭16:32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

are you thinking because Jesus quotes psalm 22 as another fulfillment of the prophets and psalms on the cross God forsook him on the cross ?

“I and my Father are one.”
‭‭John‬ ‭10:30‬ ‭KJV‬‬

This is Jesus before he came speaking through prophets

“Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment. And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor:

therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him. For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke.

According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence.

So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.

And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.

As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭59:15-21‬ ‭

it’s him he came and did a new thing to save us it’s him telling us beforehand he was coming to intercede for mankind it’s him doing this

“Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭42:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He became a man in order to save mankind

“Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; and deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:14-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

man was lost in sin and bound to death by the law no one was going to make it so he became th perfect man in order to intercede for sinners and save us

Jesus is showing us the perfect man the perfect son of God , but it’s him he lowered himself down to us in death in order to save us and lift us up to him in life

[Isa 1:15 KJV] And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.
[Isa 1:16 KJV] Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;

[Jas 4:8 KJV] Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

 

[Aaron56]

And yet...

Habakkuk 1:13 Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity: wherefore lookest thou upon them that deal treacherously, and holdest thy tongue when the wicked devoureth the man that is more righteous than he?

Quick question: do you think the wicked men are actually eating men that are righteous? I mean, that's what is says, right?

Or, could Habakkuk being using symbolic language to make a point?

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

God is not oblivious or blind to our sins. He chooses not to impute them to us because He views us through the blood of Jesus.

JESUS Gave Sacrificial Blood for you to use as you Join Him on The Cross ...which most of you have not.

You are refusing His Blood when you refuse to Deny yourself new sins.

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

....so No, your future sins are not Forgiven ...many of you are blind to dying in your sins!!!
You bought the lie from the false prophet!!!

 

[oyster67]

When we come to Jesus and are born again, we become His children and remain so despite not being perfect in the absolute sense. Our Father has made provision for us to confess and repent and do the best we can.