If GOD The Father has made His Abode in you with His Son, how is He not Seeing your New sins?

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Reborn-Adopted

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oyster67 said:
When we come to Jesus and are born again, we become His children and remain so despite not being perfect in the absolute sense. Our Father has made provision for us to confess and repent and do the best we can.
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the sin-Repent cycle is riding a bike on the broad way ...to hell
 
Reborn-Adopted

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oyster67 said:
Am I to assume that you have graduated to the perfection-cycle?

Congrats on that. (y)
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Are you waiting for literal Glorified bodies to force you to stop sinning?

We either physically die in a compatible state for the Afterlife …or we don’t. You either die in your sins ...or you don't. If you are Adopted, is your flesh waring against your spirit from Heaven? i just don't think so. the false church wants this ability to Not be available right now ...so that they can have an excuse to continue in flesh sin.

a dead conscience/spirit makes choices with a hardened heart ...it is the humanitarian/worldly level ...when you Raise to The Living Reborn Image, you are in a sin rejecting level.

If you have a sin rejecting conscience you have a body fashioned like His Glorified Body ...His Image.

A Living Conscience is a Living spirit. It only eats from The Tree of LIFE. It only chooses what GOD'S Will would choose. You don't have one if you haven't Fully Repented (Deny yourself future sins) ...because you haven't Raised with Him to The Reborn Image. You remain in the following type of image:

[Rev 13:14 KJV] And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

[Rev 13:15 KJV] And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.


JESUS had a wound by a sword and did LIVE. An image of JESUS’ Death is an image of death …the beast. They gave “life” to JESUS’ Death!!! to excuse their new sins. They are worshiping death trying to freeze time while JESUS was dead to make Him a minister of sin. they will do literally anything but join Him in His Death to Raise to The Living Side of The Cross.

[Gal 2:17-18 KJV] But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid. For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.

If you don’t worship it, you are killed …Rebirth requires a death of your worldly man:

[Rom 6:5-8 KJV] For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

[6] Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

[7] For he that is dead is freed from sin.

[8] Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
 
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Aaron56 said:
Quick question: do you think the wicked men are actually eating men that are righteous? I mean, that's what is says, right?

Or, could Habakkuk being using symbolic language to make a point?
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The word is devoured. It does not necessarily mean to eat, but to destroy, overwhelm, or to do away with. Yes, I take it literally.
 
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Reborn-Adopted said:
The whole gimmick is to say GOD doesn't see your sin because CHRIST should be in you ...but there is a problem with that ...JESUS is GOD ...and GOD The Father should be in you also. are you pretending He doesn't See your separation (sin) in the Relationship you should have with Him? imputed righteousness was started by martin luther and said it was like walking into paradise ...he was talking about living in sin.

[Jhn 14:23 KJV] Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.


Sacrificial Blood was for your death with Him that most refuse to do ...that means Denying yourself new willful sins ...that means Fully Repenting ...that means ending your worldly old man. Romans 6

The Adopted have CHRIST'S Law Written in their hearts. LIFE to make the Righteous choices of a Living Conscience.


The following isn't Saying JESUS will Walk past The Door ...He is Saying He will Come into you as you Walk past The Door. Remember, His Kingdom is inside you.

[Rev 3:20 KJV] Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
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How? Because those who are in Christ with Christ dwelling in them do not make a habit of sinning.

Sinner is who we were in our worldly nature. Not who we become when reborn in Christ with a new nature.

https://www.openbible.info/topics/your_sins_i_will_remember_no_more

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

https://www.openbible.info/topics/those_in_christ_dont_make_habit_sinning

1 John 3:9
No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God.
 
Aaron56

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John146 said:
The word is devoured. It does not necessarily mean to eat, but to destroy, overwhelm, or to do away with. Yes, I take it literally.
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Oh good. So you recognize that words may have multiple meanings.

How many meanings does the Hebrew word nāḇaṭ have? It's the word used for "look".

I'll help: among its ten meanings, it can mean "respect" or "show deference to".

Now, unless you think God is really "holding His tongue" in His hand (holding one's tongue is a phrase that requires understanding apart from syntax), Habakkuk likely was using figurative words to paint a word picture.

Also, to say that "God cannot look on sin" limits God who is "all-powerful". Furthermore, @Pilgrimshope provided some scripture to show how one should not come to the conclusion that God cannot "look" at sin. You should look into what he provided.
 
Aaron56

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There are so many rich scriptures that speak about going on to perfection, maturing in Christ, advancing toward the goal, repentance from sin (written to believers in Christ), etc.
 
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John146

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Aaron56 said:
Oh good. So you recognize that words may have multiple meanings.

How many meanings does the Hebrew word nāḇaṭ have? It's the word used for "look".

I'll help: among its ten meanings, it can mean "respect" or "show deference to".

Now, unless you think God is really "holding His tongue" in His hand (holding one's tongue is a phrase that requires understanding apart from syntax), Habakkuk likely was using figurative words to paint a word picture.

Also, to say that "God cannot look on sin" limits God who is "all-powerful". Furthermore, @Pilgrimshope provided some scripture to show how one should not come to the conclusion that God cannot "look" at sin. You should look into what he provided.
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I always allow the bible to define itself. That's the beauty of the KJV. God is holy, pure and righteous. Do you really think he's looking at all the pornography, child molestation, whoredom, etc...
 
Reborn-Adopted

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Papermonkey said:
How? Because those who are in Christ with Christ dwelling in them do not make a habit of sinning.

Sinner is who we were in our worldly nature. Not who we become when reborn in Christ with a new nature.

https://www.openbible.info/topics/your_sins_i_will_remember_no_more

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

https://www.openbible.info/topics/those_in_christ_dont_make_habit_sinning

1 John 3:9
No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God.
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lol, ohhh so sin magically became not sin ...good luck with that.
 
Blade

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Every time I start I end up.. not worth it. Reborn.. if this was me I would have said "This is what I believe and why". I would then remember these are my family.. get this now.. they are more family then flesh and blood is. And how I treat talk to them I am really talking to Jesus Christ. So how I would talk to Christ I need to treat them the same. I would then back up what I said by whats written. I would quote scripture not out of context (Isa 1:15 for example).

just saying "past sins are not forgiven". Saying they are blind. My answer is YES PRAISE GOD! Well Christ said if you were blind you would have no sin. Now if you say you "SEE" your sin remains. Cute how I did that huh. Smile.

Never make it personal don't take it personal. Use the word to back up what you say...in love in respect no matter how the other talks
 
Aaron56

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John146 said:
I always allow the bible to define itself. That's the beauty of the KJV. God is holy, pure and righteous. Do you really think he's looking at all the pornography be, child molestation, whoredom, etc...
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There seems to be a disconnect somewhere. I’ll leave you to it.
 
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Reborn-Adopted said:
unlimited forgiveness is the sin-Repent cycle that is the broad way ...JESUS Said leads to destruction.
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No. The scriptures clearly define “the way” as Jesus Himself. The opposite of Him is not Him.
 
oyster67

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John146 said:
I always allow the bible to define itself. That's the beauty of the KJV. God is holy, pure and righteous. Do you really think he's looking at all the pornography, child molestation, whoredom, etc...
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Yes, He certainly is. He is taking careful notes to hold in store for Judgement Day. God is not squeamish, fickle, or prone to lust like we are if that is what you were thinking.
 
oyster67

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Reborn-Adopted said:
Are you waiting for literal Glorified bodies to force you to stop sinning?
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Yes. I am joyfully anticipating the day when we shall be set free from all tears, pain, and temptation.
 
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