How do we distinguish false Christ & false Prophets according to Our Lord?

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Here's the scripture you requested regarding the feasts of the lord- Leviticus 23. Now prove you're not lazy by studying it. If you have questions, ask.

Next compare the timelines of that with that of Christ's crucifixion, burial, resurrection and his pouring out of the spirit on mankind.

The feasts are the types, which are fulfilled in Christ

Ik you didn’t direct that to me, but I’ll reply anyway.
The feasts may be a type, like the Passover feast/ the last supper is now our communion; however, this is the only thing we are commanded to perform. It’s a part of the pattern in the NT/ NC.
All other feasts have ended.
 
Ik you didn’t direct that to me, but I’ll reply anyway.
The feasts may be a type, like the Passover feast/ the last supper is now our communion; however, this is the only thing we are commanded to perform. It’s a part of the pattern in the NT/ NC.
All other feasts have ended.

Yeah I get that. The point seems to be flying over your head that all 7 feasts are types pointing to realities of Christ's redemption. The first 3 were fulfilled in Christ's death, burial and resurrection; fulfillment of the 4th and 6th began after the resurrection, have continued for nearly 2000 years and will reach their complete fulfillment when Christ returns; and the 5th and 7th will be fulfilled at his return.
 
Your constant personal attacks are indeed a waste of time and nobody learns anything about God through your ranting.

It is not a personal attack.
If the hermeneutical method as you always insist is a method of God then you can distinguish the difference between attack and rebuke.

I suggested this to you already in the other thread.
But let me suggest in here since you said I'm attacking you personally.

Read the entire Matthew Chapter 23.
Did Jesus attacking the Scribes & Pharisees or he was rebuking them to the truth because Jesus loved them too.
PROVERBS 27:5
5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.

Jesus rebuked the Scribes & Pharisees because he knows that there is in them will humble themselves, beg and ask Jesus Mercy.

Which did by the Scribe in Mark 12:28.
Which did by Saul of Tarsus as Pharisee.

Perhaps the Lord Jesus keep on rebuking you through the truth in his words so that you may become free cause you are being slave of your belief that hermeneutical method is a God's method.
JOHN 8:32
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
 
It is not a personal attack.
If the hermeneutical method as you always insist is a method of God then you can distinguish the difference between attack and rebuke.
Your attacks are not based upon truth so they are not rebukes. Stop the personal attacks and get back to discussing Scripture.
 
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Your attacks are not based upon truth so they are not rebukes. Stop the personal attacks and get back to discussing Scripture.

In your own opinion they are not based upon truth.
But you can't deny that they are verses or words of God.

Really I can see the characters of Scribes & Pharisees within you.
They thought they are being attack by Lord Jesus in Matthew chapter 23 so they intend to put Jesus to death.
MATTHEW 27:1
27 When the morning was come, all the chief priests and elders of the people took counsel against Jesus to put him to death:

You have your freewill to stick with your hermeneutical methods as method of God. But the mere fact that you don't know who God the Father is then your hermeneutical methods is not a truth.
 
Maybe it's your English - it doesn't come across as clear sometimes? I have to read your posts over several times and slowly to try to understand what you're saying. And there are times when I just give up, lol! Sorry for those occasions!


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I really appreciate your observation.
But I can feel your comment is in good faith.

My apology if my English is not as proper as the other readers.
This is the grammar of English that I learned Lol.

But whatever it is it doesn't mean that I will not share what God the Father gave it to me.
MATTHEW 10:8
8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

I know God the Father will make a way so that readers in this forum who are seeking for the truth will understand it.
Remember what happened on the day of Pentecost?
Although people are come from different countries and have different languages, since they are seeking the truth. God made a way and they understand what the Disciples sharing.
ACTS 2:1-12
2 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
12 And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?

But those people who understand Hebrew language words and even the Disciples are speaking in Hebrew but since they are not seeking the truth. They don't understand what the Disciples saying. And they said they were drunk.
ACTS 2:13
13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.
 
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Maybe it's your English - it doesn't come across as clear sometimes? I have to read your posts over several times and slowly to try to understand what you're saying. And there are times when I just give up, lol! Sorry for those occasions!


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I'm sorry if my English is not as good as everybody.
Despite of that, expect me to keep on sharing.
God will make a way.
 
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Let us go back to our topic on this thread.

In the New Testament if Jesus is the real messenger as Son of the living God then the False Prophets are the Scribes & Pharisees.
 
Let us go back to our topic on this thread.

In the New Testament if Jesus is the real messenger as Son of the living God then the False Prophets are the Scribes & Pharisees.
False prophets are those who claim to speak on God’s behalf, but they weren’t called by God to do so.

The scribes and Pharisees weren’t false prophets because they weren’t prophesying (except in one case of genuine prophecy). They were false teachers. Both are wrong, but they aren’t the same thing.
 
Yeah I get that. The point seems to be flying over your head that all 7 feasts are types pointing to realities of Christ's redemption. The first 3 were fulfilled in Christ's death, burial and resurrection; fulfillment of the 4th and 6th began after the resurrection, have continued for nearly 2000 years and will reach their complete fulfillment when Christ returns; and the 5th and 7th will be fulfilled at his return.

It maybe flying over my head because you seem to be conflating or wresting Scripture about feasts that was never meant to be!! Everything was completed/ fulfilled, when Christ died on the cross. Period/ done!
 
It maybe flying over my head because you seem to be conflating or wresting Scripture about feasts that was never meant to be!! Everything was completed/ fulfilled, when Christ died on the cross. Period/ done!

I quoted 2 verses above in which Paul equates Christ with Passover and Firstfruits. Furthermore, Acts 2:1 states that Pentecost was fulfilled at that time

And in the fulfillment of the day of Pentecost, they were all together with one accord in the same place. Acts 2:1
 
I quoted 2 verses above in which Paul equates Christ with Passover and Firstfruits. Furthermore, Acts 2:1 states that Pentecost was fulfilled at that time

And in the fulfillment of the day of Pentecost, they were all together with one accord in the same place. Acts 2:1

Yes, past tense (were together), as in completed. There is nothing for us to do today except the communion, every first day of the week.
 
Yes, past tense (were together), as in completed. There is nothing for us to do today except the communion, every first day of the week.

Why do you keep doing this? You say we don't have to do anything; I agree and say God will do it; then you repeat that we don't have to do anything. What's the point of having a conversation with you if you are going to keep doing this?
 
Why do you keep doing this? You say we don't have to do anything; I agree and say God will do it; then you repeat that we don't have to do anything. What's the point of having a conversation with you if you are going to keep doing this?

Keep doing what??? Might I remind you that you keep harping on the same thing, as if we have to do something with the feasts.
It’s DONE, past tense; end of discussion!
 
Keep doing what??? Might I remind you that you keep harping on the same thing, as if we have to do something with the feasts.
It’s DONE, past tense; end of discussion!

You are one dense human being. Have you ever been told in your life that you don't know how to listen? You are now
 
You are one dense human being. Have you ever been told in your life that you don't know how to listen? You are now

Did you ever think it maybe the way you write things?! Think about that before you start calling people names while being backed into a corner.

You haven’t given me any sufficient verses to back up your statements…..
 
Did you ever think it maybe the way you write things?! Think about that before you start calling people names while being backed into a corner.

You haven’t given me any sufficient verses to back up your statements…..

What is unclear about this?

"Why do you keep doing this? You say we don't have to do anything; I agree and say God will do it; then you repeat that we don't have to do anything. What's the point of having a conversation with you if you are going to keep doing this? "

I asked why you keep doing "this" and in the very next sentence explained what "this" is, ie, you say something, then I agree with what you said and say something else, and then you repeat what I just agreed with. What's not clear about the way I wrote it? And if it's not clear, then why not ask what I'm talking about?
 
What is unclear about this?

"Why do you keep doing this? You say we don't have to do anything; I agree and say God will do it; then you repeat that we don't have to do anything. What's the point of having a conversation with you if you are going to keep doing this? "

I asked why you keep doing "this" and in the very next sentence explained what "this" is, ie, you say something, then I agree with what you said and say something else, and then you repeat what I just agreed with. What's not clear about the way I wrote it? And if it's not clear, then why not ask what I'm talking about?

Now you are twisting my statement!! Wow, keep in in context to what we are discussing…
Yeah I get that. The point seems to be flying over your head that all 7 feasts are types pointing to realities of Christ's redemption. The first 3 were fulfilled in Christ's death, burial and resurrection; fulfillment of the 4th and 6th began after the resurrection, have continued for nearly 2000 years and will reach their complete fulfillment when Christ returns; and the 5th and 7th will be fulfilled at his return.

Can you please reference Scripture with your statements.
 
Can you please reference Scripture with your statements.

Let's just make this simple with a yes or no answer.

Do you belive the 7 feasts of the lord foreshadow Christ's complete redemptive work: death. burial, resurrection, pouring out of the spirit upon mankind, making reconciliation with his blood for his people, his return to earth and his peoples' rewards and rest from their labors?

Yes or no?
 
Let's just make this simple with a yes or no answer.

Do you belive the 7 feasts of the lord foreshadow Christ's complete redemptive work: death. burial, resurrection, pouring out of the spirit upon mankind, making reconciliation with his blood for his people, his return to earth and his peoples' rewards and rest from their labors?

Yes or no?

Ok, let me be blunt— I’ve been attending church all my life and
I’ve never heard that comparison in sermons, or in Bible studies.
I’m completely stumped!?!