How do we distinguish false Christ & false Prophets according to Our Lord?

[Dino246]

A man can do nothing to distinguish in his own who is the false Christ and false Prophets.

It is only Our Lord Jesus who could reveal so we can distinguish them.

Wrong. God gave very clear guidelines in the Law on how to identify false prophets. Since your knowledge of Scripture is inadequate, you obviously haven't learned that yet. You should really stop making sweeping pronouncements until you know Scripture much better.

In The New Testament, Jesus revealed it to his Disciples only but not to the Jews (even though the Jews believe in the words of God).
MARK 4:34
34 But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.

You're applying this verse incorrectly and outside its context. If you had learned proper hermeneutical methods, you wouldn't make such elementary mistakes.

 

[Godsgood]

They do come, with their wacky ideas, saying all Scripture is parables and claiming that Jesus is God the Father.

In other words, look in the mirror and see one.

You are proving Matthew 24:35 The words of God never pass away.
I can see the characters of the Scribes and Pharisees within you.

1. Scribes & Pharisees don't believe that Jesus Christ is speaking in Parables (John 2:20)
2. You can't identify who God the Father is (John 8:54-55)
3. Scribes & Pharisees said Jesus has the devil.
JOHN 10:20
20 And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?

Little by little you've been expose by the truth in the words of God that you are in the side of the Scribes & Pharisees. According to Our Lord Jesus there is no truth in them.

 

[Godsgood]

Wrong. God gave very clear guidelines in the Law on how to identify false prophets. Since your knowledge of Scripture is inadequate, you obviously haven't learned that yet. You should really stop making sweeping pronouncements until you know Scripture much better.


You're applying this verse incorrectly and outside its context. If you had learned proper hermeneutical methods, you wouldn't make such elementary mistakes.

What is written in the Holy Bible is the Truth.
Hermeneutical methods is not written in the Holy Bible. And so it is not Truth. It is just your perception.

 

[Dino246]

You are proving Matthew 24:35 The words of God never pass away.
I can see the characters of the Scribes and Pharisees within you.

1. Scribes & Pharisees don't believe that Jesus Christ is speaking in Parables (John 2:20)
2. You can't identify who God the Father is (John 8:54-55)
3. Scribes & Pharisees said Jesus has the devil.
JOHN 10:20
20 And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?

Little by little you've been expose by the truth in the words of God that you are in the side of the Scribes & Pharisees. According to Our Lord Jesus there is no truth in them.

I grow tired of your ridiculous unreason. It is shameful that you spend so much time insulting me.

 

[wolfwint]

Whom we believe?
*Man saying that For no human beiing it is possible to know God.

*Or God the Father said everybody could know him from least to the greatest.
It is being said by God the Father in The Old Testament.
JEREMIAH 31:34
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Then Our Lord Jesus repeated it in The New Testament.
HEBREWS 8:11-12
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

A man will become stubborn in the eyes of God if he will not believe that it could.

Well Jeremiah 31,34 is speaking from a future time with a new covenant. So you should not take verses out of the context.
Present their is no only living human who can claim that he knows fully God. We know from him what he has revealed in his word. Not more.

 

[wolfwint]

A man can do nothing to distinguish in his own who is the false Christ and false Prophets.

It is only Our Lord Jesus who could reveal so we can distinguish them.

In The New Testament, Jesus revealed it to his Disciples only but not to the Jews (even though the Jews believe in the words of God).
MARK 4:34
34 But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.

Jesus gave us His Holy Spirit. And he gave some the gift of distinguish the spirits.
And if you read the word of God you can distinguish false from truth.
What you wrotes is very unclear and spekulative. F.e. you told that God gave you an answer to an question. But then you are not able to tell what the answer is.

 

[JohnDB]

There were 3 types of prophets mentioned in scripture,.

Those who called for piety, morality, and encouragement
Those who could declare the absolute truth of the moment.
Those who could tell events of the future.
Occasionally, such as Joel, who foretold events of the future were not prophets at all....just an average guy.....but instead were messengers sent by God.

False prophets today are easy to spot. They outnumber your average pulpit preacher today by a huge, huge margin.

John the Baptist was the second type. He knew who was genuine and who was faking it. Refused to baptize religious leadership of the day. The apostles couldn't do this as they baptized Simon Magnus.

Third kind, Isaiah, Daniel and others....there was a "formula". Several elements to it. Near, mid-range and long range.....all said in a recurring fashion using the formula of how they were said so you could understand when these things would happen, have assurance these things told were from God, and understand that God was ultimately in control of the future even if it did not seem to be that way. (The wicked seemed to be winning and the righteous were dying)

Guys like Daniel, Joseph and etc were unique....they did all three kinds. Isaiah did not.

Jesus did all three kinds. (Of course)

ALL PROPHESIES were stated in poetry when given by God. There are zero exceptions.
All prophesies were not good news....just the opposite.
People were going to die in droves....but if you understood the prophesy you had a chance at surviving. Not a big chance...it was still slim.

 

[homwardbound]

I was saved about two years when our Head Church sent us a new Pastor and sent ours overseas. The new guy was a good orator. After one year I noticed that some of what he preached contradicted the Bible. I noticed that he was kicking people out that disagreed with him. Then he neglected gods word altogether in his sermons. Thats when it began to resemble a Cult. So I fasted and prayed and felt led to Leave that Church. I never said anything to anyone. Later I found out that the pastor told the congregation that I left because I had Demons and that if they leave his church they lose their salvation. The abuse got worse. The head church was a former 4 square that Chuck Smith pastored long before. It turned wacko. So I line up what comes over the pulpit with the Bible, if it dont fit its a fake. Ive been through a lot of Churches over the years. IMO not many Churches preach Gods Word anymore.

Unfortunately, all first birth people of the flesh are born with selfishness in them, to want to be God, whether know it or not.
When Eve was tempted, how was she tempted?
To eat and be like God, Adam too, right there with her. So they ate, and Adam saw himself and Eve as dead, was now aware as if God, yet knew he was not God, so ran and hid from God. And God did not kill anyone. All God said if you eat from that tree, he would die. Die he did and everyone else as well, except Elijah, taken up on a chariot
See the sin is Independence from God completely, is what got started
I see for me at least to not be independent from God the creator of all. I trust God even in adversities. Not easy, yet God is the one and only one to trust, the same as Son Jesus dodged all the way to death once for us all to have a chance to live in his resurrection for us to live
That be the only choice left, I see and it is a free choice to choose consciously or not, thanks
Isaiah 14, Satan wanted to be God, and wanted the people of flesh to follow his lead. People some do, some do not as many choose self over it all to be God over others
Ask Dad, Dad reveals to each of us that needs to be revealed truth as Father knows who is sincere and who is not, thanks

 

[Godsgood]

I grow tired of your ridiculous unreason. It is shameful that you spend so much time insulting me.

It is not an insult. It is the Truth.
Hermeneutical method is a man's way on how to understand the scripture.

But according to God, in order to understand the scripture is by humbling ourselves. Beg to God and ask for his mercy.

This is what the disciples of Jesus Christ did.

When Jesus said destroy this temple.
At first what the disciples understand was literal temple (John 2:17)
But they waited (symbolize humbleness) for the revelation of Jesus.
JOHN 2:21
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.

And the disciples alone who believe in the scripture.
JOHN 2:22
22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.

They learned from Jesus and there was no hermeneutical method involve.

 

[Godsgood]

Well Jeremiah 31,34 is speaking from a future time with a new covenant. So you should not take verses out of the context.
Present their is no only living human who can claim that he knows fully God. We know from him what he has revealed in his word. Not more.

If Jeremiah 31:34 refers to the future, then it is not alive in our generation.

The commandment of God in Jeremiah 31:34 is alive from generation to generation.
ECCLESIASTES 1:9
9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

And this commandment of God is not passed away even in a single generation.
MATTHEW 24:35
35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Therefore: The word of God is applicable from Old Testament and New testament up to the present and to the next Generations to come.

 

[JohnDB]

They learned from Jesus and there was no hermeneutical method involve.

This is the biggest pile of fecal material ever.

How do you know that the letter "A" is an a?

Somebody had to teach you.....
And the disciples didn't even use our alphabet.

And the writing disciples explained in numerous ways and instances they were often as lost as last year's Easter eggs over what Jesus was trying to explain.

 

[Godsgood]

Jesus gave us His Holy Spirit. And he gave some the gift of distinguish the spirits.
And if you read the word of God you can distinguish false from truth.
What you wrotes is very unclear and spekulative. F.e. you told that God gave you an answer to an question. But then you are not able to tell what the answer is.

Jesus gave us His Holy Spirit. And he gave some the gift of distinguish the spirits.
And if you read the word of God you can distinguish false from truth.

Jesus gave as a basis if we really know him.
JOHN 8:19
19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.

Whoever can't identify who God the Father is means doesn't know the real Jesus.
Without knowing the real Jesus couldn't know the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit is the Good Teacher (1 John 2:27)

Every sect in Christianity is reading the word of God.
And every sect have different recognition to Jesus Christ that results in having different doctrines and different way to salvation.

I don't see the Holy Spirit gave by Jesus due to different learning by them.
Where is the basis by distinguish the false from truth by reading the word of God?

What you wrotes is very unclear and spekulative.

If you find my writing unclear, that is my best explanation.
Anyway, God the Father is the one who gave understanding (Proverbs 2:6)

F.e. you told that God gave you an answer to an question. But then you are not able to tell what the answer

With my discernment, you are not seeking the truth in your question but having the same intention with the Pharisees.
Anyway, it is only God who knows. But I'm sure he will give me a sign of confirmation.
MATTHEW 22:15
15 Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk.

But don't worry, I will post the answer what the Lord answered in the questions for the benefits of the other readers in this thread.

 

[Godsgood]

This is the biggest pile of fecal material ever.

How do you know that the letter "A" is an a?

Somebody had to teach you.....
And the disciples didn't even use our alphabet.

And the writing disciples explained in numerous ways and instances they were often as lost as last year's Easter eggs over what Jesus was trying to explain.

God the Father gave man a freewill.
He is not controlling anybody's decision.
Like what Lord Jesus showed in John 6:55, 60 & 66.

If you believe that hermeneutical method is the correct basis of salvation then you may go for it.

 

[Dino246]

If you believe that hermeneutical method is the correct basis of salvation then you may go for it.

Nobody said that the hermeneutical method is the basis of salvation.

 

[louis]

The Lord clearly tells us in Matthew 7:15-16, that you will know false prophets by their fruits. One such group of false prophets are those whose actions are contrary to loving their neighbor, whose agenda instead advocates hate your neighbor policies.

Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

 

[wolfwint]

Jesus gave us His Holy Spirit. And he gave some the gift of distinguish the spirits.
And if you read the word of God you can distinguish false from truth.

Jesus gave as a basis if we really know him.
JOHN 8:19
19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.

Whoever can't identify who God the Father is means doesn't know the real Jesus.
Without knowing the real Jesus couldn't know the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit is the Good Teacher (1 John 2:27)

Every sect in Christianity is reading the word of God.
And every sect have different recognition to Jesus Christ that results in having different doctrines and different way to salvation.

I don't see the Holy Spirit gave by Jesus due to different learning by them.
Where is the basis by distinguish the false from truth by reading the word of God?

What you wrotes is very unclear and spekulative.

If you find my writing unclear, that is my best explanation.
Anyway, God the Father is the one who gave understanding (Proverbs 2:6)

F.e. you told that God gave you an answer to an question. But then you are not able to tell what the answer

With my discernment, you are not seeking the truth in your question but having the same intention with the Pharisees.
Anyway, it is only God who knows. But I'm sure he will give me a sign of confirmation.
MATTHEW 22:15
15 Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk.

But don't worry, I will post the answer what the Lord answered in the questions for the benefits of the other readers in this thread.

Nope, if you got the answer, why then you make a mysterie from it, insteadt clear to say what the answer is? For me you are not serious.

 

[posthuman]

For starters, KNOW WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS!!! Then it gets easier to distinguish the wheat from the Tares.

God says we are unable to distinguish the wheat from the tares; therefore He sends His angels to separate them. in parable He specifically warns us not to uproot them while they are young, because we will destroy the wheat while we fumble about in our unskilled ways

 

[JohnDB]

God the Father gave man a freewill.
He is not controlling anybody's decision.
Like what Lord Jesus showed in John 6:55, 60 & 66.

If you believe that hermeneutical method is the correct basis of salvation then you may go for it.

The ONLY reason why you can read is because of a system created by man.

And if you can READ scriptures....that is man-made hermeneutics.
It's a limited one of using flat reading....but it's a type of hermeneutics.

There's many of us who have gone further. Much much further.

 

[Godsgood]

The ONLY reason why you can read is because of a system created by man.

And if you can READ scriptures....that is man-made hermeneutics.
It's a limited one of using flat reading....but it's a type of hermeneutics.

There's many of us who have gone further. Much much further.

Lord Jesus said:
JOHN 3:12
12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

For earthly things.
When a boss dictating his secretary what the secretary should write.
Although the secretary who is the one who is writing, but the letter is belong to the boss and not to the secretary.
It is the boss way and not the secretary way.

Hermeneutics is a Man's way and not God's way.

 

[Godsgood]

They do come, with their wacky ideas, saying all Scripture is parables and claiming that Jesus is God the Father.

In other words, look in the mirror and see one.

The words of God never pass away (Matthew 24:35).

Even today I could really see the Pharisees within you.
MATTHEW 12:24-26
24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.

25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:

26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?