How do we distinguish false Christ & false Prophets according to Our Lord?

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Dino246 said:
Nobody said that the hermeneutical method is the basis of salvation.
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The Lord Jesus see those double minded man
Unfortunately he shall receive (Truth) nothing from the Lord
JAMES 1:5-8
5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.

7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.

8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
 
Godsgood said:
A man can do nothing to distinguish in his own who is the false Christ and false Prophets.

It is only Our Lord Jesus who could reveal so we can distinguish them.

In The New Testament, Jesus revealed it to his Disciples only but not to the Jews (even though the Jews believe in the words of God).
MARK 4:34
34 But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.
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Mark 4:34 exaggerates. Jesus taught plenty to those other than the 12 disciples without using parables.
However, this vein of verses does teach that spiritual truth may be conveyed using figurative as well as literal language.
 
By not studying and knowing anthropology, geography, topography, and history which were not included with scriptures intentionally....
You are then subjected to someone else's interpretation of scriptures.

I do not allow anyone else access to my checking account much less my Eternal Salvation.

The scriptures were written in an abbreviated fashion leaving these things out by design... paper and ink were expensive luxury items for thousands of years. God knew that too.

It wasn't until after the age of industrialization that paper and ink began to come down in price to the point of affordability. Where printing presses were first available around the 1500's....paper still was fairly expensive until the 1920's....400 years later. But the Great Depression kept it from being purchased....

The very elementary basics of Salvation/Justification, Sanctification and ultimate Glorification are available for understanding without much other than flat reading....some of us want to know MORE about God, His actions, His Goodness, Mercy, Kindness, Power and Might as well as Sovereignty.

And since we Love God that much we learn as much as possible about these stories that happened between 6,000 and 2,000 years ago in a very different culture, climate on the other side of the planet.
 
Godsgood said:
The Lord Jesus see those double minded man
Unfortunately he shall receive (Truth) nothing from the Lord
JAMES 1:5-8
5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.

7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.

8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
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Irrelevant to our conversation.
 
Godsgood said:
According to Our Lord Jesus here is a sign of the false Christ.
He looks like Jesus with Two Horns like a Lamb.
REVELATION 13:11
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

If he looks Jesus, how do we distinguish him?
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If Satan looks like Jesus no man could distinguish him

Aside from Satan looks like Jesus.
He can transform himself as Angel of light same with his ministers.

Who can distinguish them but Jesus alone.

2 CORINTHIANS 11:14-15
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
 
Godsgood said:
If Satan looks like Jesus no man could distinguish him

Aside from Satan looks like Jesus.
He can transform himself as Angel of light same with his ministers.

Who can distinguish them but Jesus alone.

2 CORINTHIANS 11:14-15
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
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How do you think Jesus will protect us from going with satan if we can't distinguish between them?


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Godsgood said:
If Satan looks like Jesus no man could distinguish him

Aside from Satan looks like Jesus.
He can transform himself as Angel of light same with his ministers.

Who can distinguish them but Jesus alone.

2 CORINTHIANS 11:14-15
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
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Nothing in the text suggests that only Jesus can distinguish Satan from angels. Again you are drawing conclusions that are not supported by the Bible.
 
2ndTimeIsTheCharm said:
How do you think Jesus will protect us from going with satan if we can't distinguish between them?


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How do you think Jesus will protect us from going with satan if we can't distinguish between them?

The only key so that Jesus reveal who Satan is.
We must humble ourselves so that God the Father will introduce to us the real Jesus recognized by the disciples.
As what happened to Simon Peter:
for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee. Peter humble himself.
but my Father which is in heaven. God the Father was the one who introduce the real Jesus to Simon Peter.
MATTHEW 16:15-17
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Once we recognize the real Jesus then the recognition to God the Father will follow (John 8:19)
Then Jesus will reveal who is Satan is (Mark 4:34)

No man could distinguish Satan because Satan has the power to transform.

In the New Testament it was the disciples only who protected by Jesus from Satan but not the Jews.
Because the disciples of Jesus were the only one who recognize Jesus by the revelation of the Father (Matthew 16:15-17)
LUKE 22:31-32
31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:
32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.
 
"You could not live with your own failure....
So....where did that bring you?
Back to me..."
~God~

There are no longer any prophets that proclaim absolute truth or tell of future events.
We have a difficult enough time finding preachers who can use proper hermeneutics.

And that right there should tell you all we need to know.
 
Dino246 said:
Nothing in the text suggests that only Jesus can distinguish Satan from angels. Again you are drawing conclusions that are not supported by the Bible.
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Your basis of truth should be in the text. But you insist hermeneutical methods as truth and yet it is not in the text.

Because you failed the test so you understand nothing.
Even I will quote the verse. It is still unacceptable to you because you can't identify who God the Father is So you don't have connection to God. And God never give you an understanding (Proverbs 2:6).
Instead God the Father considered you as a fool (Jeremiah 4:22)

You are pitiful.
You considered yourself as shepherd but understand nothing.
Fool people are considered by God the Father like a dog.
PROVERBS 26:11
11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.

God the Father warned his chosen not to insist the truth to the dog.
MATTHEW 7:6
6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Here is the additional description of God the Father to the dogs that is why they deserve nothing.
ISAIAH 56:11
11 Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.
 
Godsgood said:
Your basis of truth should be in the text. But you insist hermeneutical methods as truth and yet it is not in the text.
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I didn’t claim that it is. Perhaps if you put effort into understanding what I do write instead of wasting time insulting me, you would already know that.
 
Dino246 said:
I didn’t claim that it is. Perhaps if you put effort into understanding what I do write instead of wasting time insulting me, you would already know that.
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I don't know how many times you want to hear this.

I'm not insulting you, I'm sharing the truth because what I'm posting are not come from me. They are verses or words of God who are alive and never passed away (Matt 24:35).

The hermeneutical method as you insist is not the truth.
If it is the truth then you will not fail the test. Have you tried to consider that?
On the other hand, I know that you will not understand because by failing the test, you won't received any understanding from God the father (Proverbs 2:6).

I didn’t claim that it is.
If you are not claiming hermeneutical method is truth then what do you claim for hermeneutical methods in which you are recommending?

And it is not a wasting of time because the post is not intended to you alone. It is for the other readers once they read they will ask for God's Mercy.
 
Godsgood said:
I don't know how many times you want to hear this.

I'm not insulting you, I'm sharing the truth because what I'm posting are not come from me. They are verses or words of God who are alive and never passed away (Matt 24:35).

The hermeneutical method as you insist is not the truth.
If it is the truth then you will not fail the test. Have you tried to consider that?
On the other hand, I know that you will not understand because by failing the test, you won't received any understanding from God the father (Proverbs 2:6).

I didn’t claim that it is.
If you are not claiming hermeneutical method is truth then what do you claim for hermeneutical methods in which you are recommending?

And it is not a wasting of time because the post is not intended to you alone. It is for the other readers once they read they will ask for God's Mercy.
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Maybe it's your English - it doesn't come across as clear sometimes? I have to read your posts over several times and slowly to try to understand what you're saying. And there are times when I just give up, lol! Sorry for those occasions!


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Godsgood said:
I don't know how many times you want to hear this.

I'm not insulting you, I'm sharing the truth because what I'm posting are not come from me. They are verses or words of God who are alive and never passed away (Matt 24:35).

The hermeneutical method as you insist is not the truth.
If it is the truth then you will not fail the test. Have you tried to consider that?
On the other hand, I know that you will not understand because by failing the test, you won't received any understanding from God the father (Proverbs 2:6).

I didn’t claim that it is.
If you are not claiming hermeneutical method is truth then what do you claim for hermeneutical methods in which you are recommending?

And it is not a wasting of time because the post is not intended to you alone. It is for the other readers once they read they will ask for God's Mercy.
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Your constant personal attacks are indeed a waste of time and nobody learns anything about God through your ranting.
 
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Godsgood said:
The false Christ and the false Prophets are dangerous.
Because if possible they might deceive even the chosen of God.
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Yes, they are dangerous to people who aren’t proficient in God’s word. This is why we should study/ read His word to recognize Truth or Heresy.
 
ResidentAlien said:
I like the way Luke puts it: "And He said: Take heed that you not be deceived. For many will come in My name, saying, I am He, and, The time has drawn near. Therefore do not go after them."

Watch out for those who say "The time has drawn near."
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Well the time is drawing near, meaning we are in the last days. What we should be concerned with is what they’re preaching. Are their words coming from God’s word, or from their own thoughts/ somebody else’s doctrine.

We need to be like the noble Bereans who studies to see if what was said is true.
 
Godsgood said:
A man can do nothing to distinguish in his own who is the false Christ and false Prophets.

It is only Our Lord Jesus who could reveal so we can distinguish them.

In The New Testament, Jesus revealed it to his Disciples only but not to the Jews (even though the Jews believe in the words of God).
MARK 4:34
34 But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.
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We can know who is a false teacher today—by knowing what he speaks. If you know God’s word you will know whether he speaks Truth, or heresy!!
 
If they cannot provide Scripture that agrees with what they teach, it is false and should be ignored.
I am amazed at the number of people who want you to accept what they say when they do not provide Scripture and when you ask them to do so then attack you as unlearned or to lazy to search for your self.
They said it so it is up to them to prove it with Scripture.
 
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Howdy said:
If they cannot provide Scripture that agrees with what they teach, it is false and should be ignored.
I am amazed at the number of people who want you to accept what they say when they do not provide Scripture and when you ask them to do so then attack you as unlearned or to lazy to search for your self.
They said it so it is up to them to prove it with Scripture.
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Yep, I’m happy to debate with people, but I find that they either attack me, or ignore my comments. Fear happens when your backed into a corner! Lol

Heresy needs to be called out!
 
Howdy said:
If they cannot provide Scripture that agrees with what they teach, it is false and should be ignored.
I am amazed at the number of people who want you to accept what they say when they do not provide Scripture and when you ask them to do so then attack you as unlearned or to lazy to search for your self.
They said it so it is up to them to prove it with Scripture.
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Here's the scripture you requested regarding the feasts of the lord- Leviticus 23. Now prove you're not lazy by studying it. If you have questions, ask.

Next compare the timelines of that with that of Christ's crucifixion, burial, resurrection and his pouring out of the spirit on mankind.

The feasts are the types, which are fulfilled in Christ
 
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