Has anyone found secret messages in the bible?
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In Michael Drosnin's Bible Codes book of 1997, he claimed that historical and future events
were encoded in the Old Testament. The book attracted religious followers among others.
Though he was an an atheist, he firmly believed in the hidden messages. Chuck Missler
penned a similar tome, based on “equidistant letter sequences" aka science of cryptology.
Of Michael's book, wiki says the codes were planted by ETs, whereas Missler says God did it.
A code of equidistant letters buried within the Bible is not a new idea. See Wikipedia for a full
discussion. But with a little computer programming, Drosnin pushes it to the limit. He uncovers
prophecies about Watergate, Hitler, Shakespeare’s writings, Edison’s inventions, the holocaust,
Roosevelt, Kennedy, communism, Armageddon, and, amazingly, the promise of his future book.
It all sounds convincing, until a little experimentation verifies the same probabilistic expectations
in other works of literature. Moby Dick revealed much of the same prophecies and many more. So,
mathematicians turned back to the Bible to see what else they could learn by using the software.
Several more startling prophecies surfaced: “Code is bunk.” “Drosnin Fraud.” “Darwin was right.” source
were encoded in the Old Testament. The book attracted religious followers among others.
Though he was an an atheist, he firmly believed in the hidden messages. Chuck Missler
penned a similar tome, based on “equidistant letter sequences" aka science of cryptology.
Of Michael's book, wiki says the codes were planted by ETs, whereas Missler says God did it.
A code of equidistant letters buried within the Bible is not a new idea. See Wikipedia for a full
discussion. But with a little computer programming, Drosnin pushes it to the limit. He uncovers
prophecies about Watergate, Hitler, Shakespeare’s writings, Edison’s inventions, the holocaust,
Roosevelt, Kennedy, communism, Armageddon, and, amazingly, the promise of his future book.
It all sounds convincing, until a little experimentation verifies the same probabilistic expectations
in other works of literature. Moby Dick revealed much of the same prophecies and many more. So,
mathematicians turned back to the Bible to see what else they could learn by using the software.
Several more startling prophecies surfaced: “Code is bunk.” “Drosnin Fraud.” “Darwin was right.” source
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There was one that Jesus showed me about the 153 fishes and two other numbers that I forgot about.Might have been when Jesus sent out the 12 Apostles out in twos, and another number in scripture.It came up to 144 anyways.
That was years ago in my 20's when I asked him about hidden truths.I wouldn't say that it was a 'hidden' truth per say.He would often quote a scripture whenever I'd ask him about a meaning and whatever he quoted made no sense to me at the time cause it was a spiritual truth that he was revealing.I wasn't saved back then.
That was years ago in my 20's when I asked him about hidden truths.I wouldn't say that it was a 'hidden' truth per say.He would often quote a scripture whenever I'd ask him about a meaning and whatever he quoted made no sense to me at the time cause it was a spiritual truth that he was revealing.I wasn't saved back then.
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I'm not sure about secret messages. There are however a lot of plainly stated messages in the bible. Sadly we're in the days when 'churches' and 'Christians' are turning from the teachings of the bible, a lot of what the bible clearly says is being ignored or 'reinterpreted'. As the bible says:
For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear (2 Timothy 4:3).
We have been called by God to stand firm in these Last Days, standing for the truth of God's word. God Bless You
For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear (2 Timothy 4:3).
We have been called by God to stand firm in these Last Days, standing for the truth of God's word. God Bless You
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To be fair, he widens the lens to include Bibles based on the Greek Textus Receptus, but the point stands that the Codex Sinaiticus and Vaticanus are not the “best” manuscripts. There is so much more on the inferiority of the Critical Text that could be brought out, not least of which the way it is used by Muslims to promote the myth of Biblical corruption.
It doesn’t surprise me that God intertwines His word with numeric “checksums” for want of a better analogy. Examples are replete for those who want to explore it. Chuck Missler went into the topic in some depth.
It doesn’t surprise me that God intertwines His word with numeric “checksums” for want of a better analogy. Examples are replete for those who want to explore it. Chuck Missler went into the topic in some depth.
I think there is a distinction between digging deep and divination. God invites one and prohibits the other.
Proverbs 25:2
New King James Version
2 It is the glory of God to conceal a matter,
But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.
E.g.
https://www.khouse.org/articles/2003/482/
Proverbs 25:2
New King James Version
2 It is the glory of God to conceal a matter,
But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.
E.g.
https://www.khouse.org/articles/2003/482/
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I think the use of the words “secret messages” in the OP is rather loaded towards Gnosticism…
The Protestant third rule of scripture interpretation is:
“If the Plain Text Makes Perfect Sense, Seek No Other Sense”
Contrast with the ancient Hebrew method: PRDS
P'shat (straight, direct, literal), Remez (hinted-at), D'rash (inquire, seek) and Sod (secret, mysterious).
Within this second view, deeper meanings never contradict the plain meaning.
The Protestant third rule of scripture interpretation is:
“If the Plain Text Makes Perfect Sense, Seek No Other Sense”
Contrast with the ancient Hebrew method: PRDS
P'shat (straight, direct, literal), Remez (hinted-at), D'rash (inquire, seek) and Sod (secret, mysterious).
Within this second view, deeper meanings never contradict the plain meaning.
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