Has anyone found secret messages in the bible?

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I found this very interesting recently. The layers of mathematical improbability behind some of this leads me to conclude the Bible is unique and inspired by God.

 
FRB72 said:
I found this very interesting recently. The layers of mathematical improbability behind some of this leads me to conclude the Bible is unique and inspired by God.

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I agree the Bible is unique and inspired by God; but this guy is pushing a gimmick to make people think the KJV is the Bible. Nothing but smoke and mirrors here.
 
In Michael Drosnin's Bible Codes book of 1997, he claimed that historical and future events
were encoded in the Old Testament. The book attracted religious followers among others.
Though he was an an atheist, he firmly believed in the hidden messages. Chuck Missler
penned a similar tome, based on “equidistant letter sequences" aka science of cryptology.
Of Michael's book, wiki says the codes were planted by ETs, whereas Missler says God did it.

A code of equidistant letters buried within the Bible is not a new idea. See Wikipedia for a full
discussion. But with a little computer programming, Drosnin pushes it to the limit. He uncovers
prophecies about Watergate, Hitler, Shakespeare’s writings, Edison’s inventions, the holocaust,
Roosevelt, Kennedy, communism, Armageddon, and, amazingly, the promise of his future book.

It all sounds convincing, until a little experimentation verifies the same probabilistic expectations
in other works of literature. Moby Dick revealed much of the same prophecies and many more. So,
mathematicians turned back to the Bible to see what else they could learn by using the software.
Several more startling prophecies surfaced: “Code is bunk.” “Drosnin Fraud.” “Darwin was right.” source
 
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Why the red x?
Do you honestly disagree with what it says?
Are you upset that it goes off topic from your OP (which, btw happens around the forums here A LOT. Also, it was in reply to someone else whose reply was "on topic", so...)
Or is there another reason?

Godsgirl1983 said:
And suddenly, (after not hearing this in years) this song instantly started running through my mind



Words and music by Bob Hartman
Based on Matthew 7:3, 5, James 1:2, Matthew 5:16

Too many black sheep in the family
Too many stones from a house of glass
They've heard the story, they've heard the lines
But talk is too cheap to change their minds
They want to see some vital signs

Convictions - in the way we live
Convictions - not a narrative
Actions speak a little louder than words

Seen and not heard, seen and not heard
Sometimes God's children should be seen and not heard
There's too much talk and not enough walk
Sometimes God's children should be seen and not heard

Delayed reaction to hostility
Brings us into reality
Cause when we answer in our defense
They can see through the false pretense
They want to see some evidence

Commitment - no more alibis
Commitment - not a compromise
Actions speak a little louder than words

Let your light so shine in all you do
With an answer near when they come to you
Don't let your mouth start talkin'
Until your feet start walkin'
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NTNT58 said:
The guy's Youtube channel has a lot of other videos with countless other encoded formulas that make it just about impossible to dismiss the whole thing as coincidence or conspiracy.
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Quite to the contrary. The guy finds elves and fairies behind every tree.
 
There was one that Jesus showed me about the 153 fishes and two other numbers that I forgot about.Might have been when Jesus sent out the 12 Apostles out in twos, and another number in scripture.It came up to 144 anyways.
That was years ago in my 20's when I asked him about hidden truths.I wouldn't say that it was a 'hidden' truth per say.He would often quote a scripture whenever I'd ask him about a meaning and whatever he quoted made no sense to me at the time cause it was a spiritual truth that he was revealing.I wasn't saved back then.
 
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I'm not sure about secret messages. There are however a lot of plainly stated messages in the bible. Sadly we're in the days when 'churches' and 'Christians' are turning from the teachings of the bible, a lot of what the bible clearly says is being ignored or 'reinterpreted'. As the bible says:
For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear (2 Timothy 4:3).
We have been called by God to stand firm in these Last Days, standing for the truth of God's word. God Bless You :)
 
ResidentAlien said:
I agree the Bible is unique and inspired by God; but this guy is pushing a gimmick to make people think the KJV is the Bible. Nothing but smoke and mirrors here.
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To be fair, he widens the lens to include Bibles based on the Greek Textus Receptus, but the point stands that the Codex Sinaiticus and Vaticanus are not the “best” manuscripts. There is so much more on the inferiority of the Critical Text that could be brought out, not least of which the way it is used by Muslims to promote the myth of Biblical corruption.

It doesn’t surprise me that God intertwines His word with numeric “checksums” for want of a better analogy. Examples are replete for those who want to explore it. Chuck Missler went into the topic in some depth.
 
I think the use of the words “secret messages” in the OP is rather loaded towards Gnosticism…

The Protestant third rule of scripture interpretation is:

“If the Plain Text Makes Perfect Sense, Seek No Other Sense”

Contrast with the ancient Hebrew method: PRDS

P'shat (straight, direct, literal), Remez (hinted-at), D'rash (inquire, seek) and Sod (secret, mysterious).

Within this second view, deeper meanings never contradict the plain meaning.
 
if anyone was familiar with the Hebrew Alphabet of 22 Letters, each Letter, also has a Numeral Value to it. so, one Character, is both a Letter and Numeral Value.
this has been know for some time [75 years or more]. Good Catch!
 
Godsgirl1983 said:
@NTNT58
Why the red x?
Do you honestly disagree with what it says?
Are you upset that it goes off topic from your OP (which, btw happens around the forums here A LOT. Also, it was in reply to someone else whose reply was "on topic", so...)
Or is there another reason?
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Yes, I disagree with your notion that Christians should not be heard. Spreading the gospel is commanded in the bible. So yes, you're wrong.
 
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