Faith without works..........

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Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom (2 Cor ch 3 v 17). If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ (Rom 8 v 9b). The world cannot receive the Spirit of truth, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him (from John 14 v 17). Those not in Christ are not free (see Heb 2 v 15). Praise God if He has rescued you from the dominion of darkness! (see Col 1 v 13)
 
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Magenta said:
You conflate volition with freedom, and deny Scripture to do so.

God rescued me from the dominion of darkness. Praise the Lord!

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Colossians 1 verse 13 ~ He has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of His beloved Son.
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LMBO a distinction without a difference. If we arent free to reject Jesus then we can't be action out of love.[/QUOTE]
 
Jordon said:
You can't have faith without his grace.

God is the sower and it is by his grace your saved.

For instance whom the lord saves he chooses them to keep the lord faith. So there you have the full gospel summarised, the saving faith is the lords faith being planted in you by what ever amount of faith is sufficient for you.
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But faith alone does not save and if Gods grace was all that's needed then faith wouldn't be necessary. It's really important to understand what sufficient means.
 
Nedsk said:
But faith alone does not save and if Gods grace was all that's needed then faith wouldn't be necessary. It's really important to understand what sufficient means.
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Well if you don't hear is word then your deaf 🙂
 
Jordon said:
Well if you don't hear is word then your deaf 🙂
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LOL people hear his word and sin all the time including you but if grace is what's save then faith isn't necessary. That is the conclusion of your previous post.

If we're saved by Gods grace through Jesus' death on the cross then it either saves everyone or it saves only those who believe, have faith in him. So does our faith save us or is it Gods grace that saves us?
 
Nedsk said:
LOL people hear his word and sin all the time including you but if grace is what's save then faith isn't necessary. That is the conclusion of your previous post.

If we're saved by Gods grace through Jesus' death on the cross then it either saves everyone or it saves only those who believe, have faith in him. So does our faith save us or is it Gods grace that saves us?
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It's not your faith that saves you, Faith is the word planted in your heart by Gods enabling grace.

Basically your a Muppet on a string untill you become a puppet on a string. 🙂.
 
Jordon said:
It's not your faith that saves you, Faith is the word planted in your heart by Gods enabling grace.

Basically your a Muppet on a string untill you become a puppet on a string. 🙂.
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So we aren't saved by faith?
 
Nedsk said:
So we aren't saved by faith. Got it.
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Ephesians 2:8-9
New International Version
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.

Both saving grace and and saving faith is a gift from God.
 
Jordon said:
Ephesians 2:8-9
New International Version
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.

Both saving grace and and saving faith is a gift from God.
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But faith without works is dead. You can see then, that a man is saved by works AND not by faith alone
 
Nedsk said:
But faith without works is dead. You can see then, that a man is saved by works AND not by faith alone
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faith is a gift from The heavens., and the works are what you produce from the gift of faith, and the works you produce are the works of gift of the faith you've been given. So basically the works are his works given to you through his faith.

It's kinda of the same thing for when you know right from wrong, that's Gods will pricking your conscience

Everyone has an inherent will from God.
 
Nedsk said:
So faith alone is or is not sufficient for salvation?
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Easy question...

Mat 19:17 So He said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments."

Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
 
homwardbound said:
Today it is no longer about sin/ God took away sin through Son's last shed blood sacrifice for us all. What, but I just sinned again, I need more forgiveness
Really? From God? So Son's one time sacrifice was not good enough, it is not done, sin is not taken away in Father's sight for us by Son? And he is not risen where new life is a gift to us. ready to be received from God as the gift to be thankful in?
Yes it is, yet , what if one sins again?
Do I, you need to be forgiven again and again or do I, you remain still forgiven by God, is Sin taken away or not John 1:29 from God? It is finished by Son John 19:30 That got done first for us all being under Law, where no other flesh could ever be perfect, no, not one, but Son Jesus for us all "Done in Son" Either a thank you or I got to do more? It is either done or it is not, read 1 Cor 15

So, God by Son the two as Won (One) for us all to be born new and love all in God's Spirit and Truth, regardless of what others do or not do, includes me. John 19:30, 2 Cor 5:16-22
It is, the love of God that won and wins over evil period. Jesus Won! Was that for us all or for himself, maybe just a few, NOT a few!, Done once for us all, Hebrews 10:10. Since Jesus and Father are perfect, there is/was no need for that sacrifice other than to save us all, (In the resurrected life of Jesus in God Father's Spirit and Truth alone) since God requires perfection to enter, Jesus is the one time sacrifice for all. That does not save anyone, the death. It reconciles all as forgiven first, then new life sets in and grows us up into maturity eating meat over just drinking milk, Hebrews 5:12-6:6.
John 16:33 John 19:30, Satan defeated at the resurrected Son Jesus. Now Father waits in love and mercy to all for all flesh to be put under Son's feet, each willingly worshipping this done work for us all Wow is me!!!!!!!!! those tat see just love all. as God has shown by Son first to us all.

Then one, many, hopefully all will be so busy in the new life of Love, there is no more time for sin again, being too busy worshipping God 24/7 no matter where one anyone might be daily.

Trusting God to reveal all the truth, nothing but the truth that sets people free in love and mercy to all too
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I would suggest you read the book of IJohn. Here is an excerpt...

1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jn 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.

And what is sin?

1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. KJV
 
Jordon said:
faith is a gift from The heavens., and the works are what you produce from the gift of faith, and the works you produce are the works of gift of the faith you've been given. So basically the works are his works given to you through his faith.

It's kinda of the same thing for when you know right from wrong, that's Gods will pricking your conscience

Everyone has an inherent will from God.
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So then I have no choice but to do the works of the faith given to me?
 
john832 said:
Easy question...

Mat 19:17 So He said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments."

Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
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Why can't people just answer the question?
 
Nedsk said:
But faith without works is dead. You can see then, that a man is saved by works AND not by faith alone
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Saved to be with the Lord when he dies by faith.
Saved from the corruption of the world by works.

If man is not perfected before he dies, the Lord will use the time in the millennium to work out anything that was missing.
 
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