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If I said to you, God will condemn you to hell if you think of a pink rabbit, what is the first thought that would come into your head if you believed me?
Don't laugh, its a serious point!
Faith or Law?
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If I said to you, God will condemn you to hell if you think of a pink rabbit, what is the first thought that would come into your head if you believed me?
Don't laugh, its a serious point!
Ooh, that's interesting!
I would look it up in he Bible to see if He did say He'll do that!
I can't stop thinking about pink rabbits now! And even if I so much as think about pink rabbits... I'm doomed now, thanks a lot! You minister of death, you!
I'm being seriously though, in my own twisted way, anyway. How do you think innocent kids become jaded young adults. They usually only need one introduction to each of their addictions.
God did say He will write His laws on our hearts and give us His Holy Spirit to enable and cause us to obey them.
So He obviously wants us to still obey Him in them.
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We wouldnt be able to do it under the power of sin would we(1Corinthians15:56)God did say He will write His laws on our hearts and give us His Holy Spirit to enable and cause us to obey them.
So He obviously wants us to still obey Him in them.
That's why God gave us His Holy Spirit. So now we'd be able to obey Him under His power,
That's why the Good News is indeed Good News.
We understand things in pairs by contrast, so we can only understand hotness together with coldness, we can only understand pink rabbits together with not pink rabbits, and we can only understand righteousness together with unrighteousness. However, there is nothing inherent about understanding coveting together with not coveting causes coveting to increase. If it weren't for the law of sin, then sin would lie dead, so the command against coveting would mean that we would all refrain from coveting and would have no struggle to do the good that we want to do, but the law of sin is causing us to not do the good that we want to do and causes sin to increase..
If the bible isn't applicable to real life, or vice versa, what are we doing here?
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OKThat's why God gave us His Holy Spirit. So now we'd be able to obey Him under His power,
That's why the Good News is indeed Good News.
So someone believes they must not lust have impure thoughts or they will be cast into hell because they would not be obeying the ten commandments. They hav e the Holy Spirit, but they are still human. Heaven or hell, for them hinges on having no impure thoughts. I imagine they'd be quite worried about having any, as they don't want to end up in hell. What do you think the result would be?
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Of course, if someone did not hold the law to where it is set at, they wouldn't have the problem Im describing. Some might believe outward obedience is enough, they wouldn't relate obeying law to the inside of man, as Paul did
You should try and submit to the Holy Spirit. He actually IS powerful to overcome lust and whatever habitual sins have control over you! The Holy Spirit really is amazing!
That's the reason God sent Him to us!
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James456
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You're not understanding the point''You should try and submit to the Holy Spirit. He actually IS powerful to overcome lust and whatever habitual sins have control over you! The Holy Spirit really is amazing!
That's the reason God sent Him to us!
If heaven hinges on obeying law, you have a problem, if you understand what is entailed in obeying the law
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James456
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Hence:You should try and submit to the Holy Spirit. He actually IS powerful to overcome lust and whatever habitual sins have control over you! The Holy Spirit really is amazing!
That's the reason God sent Him to us!
For sin shall no longer be your master for you are not under law but under grace Romans6:14
Doesn't say sin will not be your master for you have the Holy Spirit does it.
I heard you.
And I said that God gave us His Holy Spirit so we can obey Him. Plus He wrote His commands or laws on our hearts.
He adtually made it possible and easy for us to obey Him when Jesus died for us!
I want'ed to add "Pretending?" before anyone replied but...
Christians pretending they're (even if only near) perfect is the problem at issue per the discussion. Jesus' statement "my strength is made perfect in weakness" is turned on its head to imply, "my weakness is made perfect in strength."
God's answer to Paul's request to take away his weakness isn't suggesting a negation of it by Christ's strength. Paul "can do all things through Christ who strengthens me," in fact, because Christ's strength 'fills in the gaps' of Paul's weakness so that, even while Paul's weakness is yet present, he can still do what he otherwise could not. If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and make God a liar (1Jn 1:8; 1Jn 1:10). I think this more accurately illustrates the cleansing of sin (especially w/ re: sin's effect) in us, rather than the commonly accepted absolute absence of sin (while we are in the world anyway).
In Exodus 20:6, God wanted His children to love Him and obey His commandments, so obedience to God has always been a matter of the heart and God has always disdained it when people honored Him with their lips while their hearts were far from Him (Isaiah 29:13).