Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?

[NayborBear]

I went shopping yesterday and the cashier overcharged me.


It would really take quite some time to untangle the mess you are in. Step one in your problem is recognizing that the Lord Jesus Christ IS God.

If you can't overcome this hurdle then everything that I say after that would be meaningless to you.

Guess what Grandpa?
So is this guy!
2 Thessalonians 2
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Question is?
Can you tell the difference?

 

[RickStudies]

How are they rejecting He who sent Jesus?

I see no reason why you would expect anyone but NayBorBear to explain what he meant.

 

[RickStudies]

Still no answers to be found for the questions asked in posts 8215 & 8238.

After looking at your posts I see it as unreasonable to demand answers for your questions. Not critical to answer these and the best questions I ask get ignored by those who have no answer. Quite a few times my hard ones are avoided because my critics can`t address it. Other times I get rebutted wtih libel and name calling. This is the worst debate club I ever played in

 

[wokinluv]

Submission to the Authorities

Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. For he is God’s servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God’s servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

Lucifer did not submit to God's authority. He became proud and rebelled against God. He is the LAWLESS (2 Thessalonians 2:1-12) one and His servants are the fruits of his LAWLESSNESS. Truly that a tree is known by it's fruits.

2 Corinthians 11:13-15 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you wholeheartedly obeyed the form of teaching to which you were entrusted. You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness. I put this in human terms because you are weak in your natural selves. Just as you used to offer the parts of your body in slavery to impurity and to ever-increasing wickedness, so now offer them in slavery to righteousness leading to holiness. When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness. What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things result in death! But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6:16-23

The Master's word/s is a law to His servants, written on their hearts.

Confess Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and walk in Love.

God is good and His Love endures forever. Amen.

 

[DeighAnn]

I am saved by faith and rewarded for my works. Praise the Lord. I sure hope when my mortal body dies, that I have tons of works following me.

 

[gb9]

After looking at your posts I see it as unreasonable to demand answers for your questions. Not critical to answer these and the best questions I ask get ignored by those who have no answer. Quite a few times my hard ones are avoided because my critics can`t address it. Other times I get rebutted wtih libel and name calling. This is the worst debate club I ever played in

earlier today, you told me I accused you of saying things that you did not say. well, I went to go through your posts to see if I was correct or not, and discovered that you have limited access to your page, so that only folks you want to can scroll through your posts.

so, I thought, since I do not play games like that, knowing that this is a busy thread, and some of us do not have time to dig through pages of posts to narrow one person's down, I thought I would publicly ask you to give me access to your page, so I can check for myself.

unless, as I said earlier, there is some reason you would rather not...

 

[DeighAnn]

If you don’t believe that we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, then your one word utterance above is the best thing you have going for you. Very sad.

Just because you put a "If you don't believe" at the beginning of the statement, makes it no less a false witness against a Child of God and everyone knows it, including God, including you. That is about the worst JUDGEMENT, before God and everyone else you can make, don't you think? I defy you to give me a single post where he has ever eluded to that. You don't like his understanding of the Word, so you flat out call him unsaved. How unChristlike can you be. I would hate to be you come judgement day. I would be so ashamed and repentant knowing I flat out defied God like that, in a Christian forum like this.

 

[DeighAnn]

Who on CC says DON’T follow God’s commands?

If God hasn't shown you, there is nothing I could say to open your eyes and ears.

 

[DeighAnn]

Yes, And he never broke any of Gods laws BECAUSE he loved his father and all people around him more than he did his own life. IE, he was sinless BECAUSE he loved,

Question If the law of Moses expired with John the Baptist, and the New Covenant wasn't "put in force" till His blood shed on the cross, was there any law while He walked the earth?

 

[RickStudies]

earlier today, you told me I accused you of saying things that you did not say. well, I went to go through your posts to see if I was correct or not, and discovered that you have limited access to your page, so that only folks you want to can scroll through your posts.

so, I thought, since I do not play games like that, knowing that this is a busy thread, and some of us do not have time to dig through pages of posts to narrow one person's down, I thought I would publicly ask you to give me access to your page, so I can check for myself.

unless, as I said earlier, there is some reason you would rather not...

I don`t need to do that. If I thought you had to keep the sabbath to be saved, or the law, or if I thought you needed to turn to Judaism I would plainly say so. All the posts I made in defense of Paul`s gospel and you want to accuse me of being a Judaiazer and my partner in the Galatians thread was accused of Galatian error That one`s hilarious because he`s a full fledged Pauline Christian.

With this request you make it clear to everyone that you make accusations without even knowing what people have said. You just outed yourself. You have no credibility.

 

[DeighAnn]

If God didn't expect us to try and fail, change that inner man and try again, then what is forgiveness for?

 

[Shekinahglory]

earlier today, you told me I accused you of saying things that you did not say. well, I went to go through your posts to see if I was correct or not, and discovered that you have limited access to your page, so that only folks you want to can scroll through your posts.

so, I thought, since I do not play games like that, knowing that this is a busy thread, and some of us do not have time to dig through pages of posts to narrow one person's down, I thought I would publicly ask you to give me access to your page, so I can check for myself.

unless, as I said earlier, there is some reason you would rather not...

good luck I know how nasty these things tend to gey,

Lord I come before yoo asking for your Grace abd wisdom to be poured out on your servants and that we may dwell in unity.Amen

 

[DeighAnn]

Once you have been saved, NEVER LET ANYONE MAKE YOU FEEL BAD ABOUT YOUR WORKS. They are all we take with us. NEVER BELIEVE ANYONE WHO "SUGGESTS" YOU ARE NOT SAVED because you believe in works. NEVER BELIEVE ANYONE WHO SAYS YOU ARE WORKING FOR YOUR SALVATION. Those who issue such comments are trying to put for a doctrine of man that requires that theology to be put for because without it, their doctrine like a house of cards falls apart. If they tell you they are but filthy rags, tell them God wants them anyhow.


Revelation 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works or else I will come unto thee quickly and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent

Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan
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Revelation 2:19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.

Revelation 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts and I will give unto every one of you according to your works
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Revelation 3:8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name. o every one of you according to your works.

Revelation 3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.Revelation

3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot I would thou wert cold or hot.

 

[gb9]

I don`t need to do that. If I thought you had to keep the sabbath to be saved, or the law, or if I thought you needed to turn to Judaism I would plainly say so. All the posts I made in defense of Paul`s gospel and you want to accuse me of being a Judaiazer and my partner in the Galatians thread was accused of Galatian error That one`s hilarious because he`s a full fledged Pauline Christian.

With this request you make it clear to everyone that you make accusations without even knowing what people have said. You just outed yourself. You have no credibility.

* says the guy who predictably declined to let someone easily and quickly go through their posts.

all right, i'll do the hard way

 

[DeighAnn]

A person who is follwoing love, does not need any law. because they would never break any law while they are loving.

What if the law of love was all they knew? Then a man" loving" a man would not seem to be a problem, would it?

 

[DeighAnn]

And with that it is safe to say our works do not maintain our salvation.

It is also safe to say that by our works we can lose salvation

 

[Shekinahglory]

Hi, I agree we do those things because sin is not just what we do sin is what we are in our Old Man. this is why it is appointed to all men to die once. Allowing us to die physically is one of the greatest gifts our Lord has given to us so we do not have to mourn like the world.

Amen, amen, amen

 

[Shekinahglory]

Once you have been saved, NEVER LET ANYONE MAKE YOU FEEL BAD ABOUT YOUR WORKS. They are all we take with us. NEVER BELIEVE ANYONE WHO "SUGGESTS" YOU ARE NOT SAVED because you believe in works. NEVER BELIEVE ANYONE WHO SAYS YOU ARE WORKING FOR YOUR SALVATION. Those who issue such comments are trying to put for a doctrine of man that requires that theology to be put for because without it, their doctrine like a house of cards falls apart. If they tell you they are but filthy rags, tell them God wants them anyhow.


Revelation 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works or else I will come unto thee quickly and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent

Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan
.
Revelation 2:19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.

Revelation 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts and I will give unto every one of you according to your works
.
Revelation 3:8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name. o every one of you according to your works.

Revelation 3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.Revelation

3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot I would thou wert cold or hot.

Interestingly enough, don’have Access to Bible, we are told the work the Father has for us is to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Is that working my way to heaven? I hope so I want to believe Him all day every day, what a God.

 

[DeighAnn]

That's correct the powers of darkness armed themselves with the holy, righteous and good Law of God and has been using the Law to deceive men and dishonor God. This post is too long so I can start another post of how Satan took God's Law and has used it against God's people since the Garden of Eden. Sorry for length.

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

 

[Shekinahglory]

Nice. Satan is one of the least studied sections of our Lord’s Word fighting an enemy we do not understand did not work in the fleshly worl, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan And yet we fight this demonic beast blindly. I hope to share who and what Satan, anti-Christ and the false prophet are. I won’t hijack this thread. Thought you would like to discover this. Satan is a trinity of evil. Father, son and spirit.please let me know if you pursue it what you find. God bless