Charlie Kirk - so what now ?

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Means, Motive and Opportunity

When investigating a crime you look for these three things.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8wl2y66p9o

This article is from the BBC and describes Tyler Robinson, a native of Utah who was 22 and politically leaned to the left.

1. He left a note under his keyboard saying he had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and was going to take it. We have video of him at the scene of the crime, so it is safe to say he had opportunity.

2. He had access to a 30-06 rifle which is said to be the weapon that killed Charlie Kirk. Therefore he had means.

3. He was a left leaning political ideology and apparently a member of the LGBTQ+ community and that is apparently his motive.

So then he ticks off all three boxes.

However, if the video can prove he did not have the rifle with him on the roof then that would eliminate the means. We have a video of him jumping off the roof and throwing down the back pack and by all accounts even if you disassemble a 30-06 rifle it would not have fit into that backpack. Nor could have had had the rifle down his pant legs as they would not have been able to bend the way they did when he jumps down. Obviously this is not proof, simply a valid question given the video (which is evidence) and the rifle which we found in a nearby woods. This question is critical as he could not have been the killer if he did not have the means and according to the official story, the means was that rifle.

Also, Tyler was not enrolled in Utah Valley University, nor had he ever been. Doesn't mean he was never on the campus or that he was not familiar with the campus. He could have been. But it does mean he had to come fully onto the campus with a rifle, and then figure out how to get up on that roof. No doubt there may be a simple explanation, but I'd like to hear it. He said "he had the opportunity" and so this knowledge of how he would do all this is critical to believing he had the opportunity.

His motive is supposedly the fact that he was politically leaning to the left and Charlie was a conservative. That sounds like an extremely flimsy motive. I'd like to hear from close friends that he had been railing against Charlie Kirk in the past, or that he and his friends had talked about him online or when they hung out. You would think if you hated a person's politics enough to assassinate them your friends would have heard you berating him. Again, not saying there isn't someone who can corroborate his hatred for Charlie Kirk, only that I would like to hear that corroborated before I buy that this was his motive.

Now he has no criminal history! I asked AI to give me a summary of the behavioral analysis for an assassin, what we would expect to see:

In a behavioral analysis of an assassin, you would expect to see a progression from deep-seated frustrations and feelings of inadequacy, often fueled by fantasies of a better self or a desire to overthrow a system, to the development of increasingly concerning behaviors. This includes a growing obsession with violence, weapons, and previous attackers, coupled with social withdrawal, angry outbursts, and a reduced ability to cope with stress. The final stages involve a period of focused planning and preparation, such as the creation of a manifesto, reconnaissance of potential targets, and the disclosure of violent plans.

Early development

  • Deep-seated inadequacy: A history of feeling like a failure in jobs, relationships, and life in general, which creates chronic frustration.
  • Fantasy life: A tendency to live in fantasies about achieving greatness or being someone they are not, sometimes including fantasizing about doing something important or being people they are not.
  • Loner tendencies: A preference for being isolated and a difficulty forming and maintaining relationships.
  • Escalating frustration: An inability to cope with setbacks or to find normal outlets for frustration, leading to a belief that violence is the only solution.

Middle development
  • Obsessive interests: An increasing and often troubling fixation on violence, prior attackers, and the acquisition of weapons or tactical gear.
  • Social and emotional withdrawal: A reduced interest in hobbies, a worsening of performance at work or school, and more concerning interactions with others.
  • Angry outbursts: A rise in angry behavior, aggression, or a general "unraveling" of their social behavior.

Final stage

  • Focused planning: Assassination is not a spontaneous event but the culmination of a process. The individual enters a period of focused planning and preparation.
  • Reconnaissance: Asking questions about, or testing the security of, potential targets.
  • Disclosure of intent: The creation of a manifesto, a suicide note, or other items designed to explain or claim credit for the attack.
  • Shifting motivations: The motivation may not be a clear ideology but a "mishmash" of contradictory beliefs, often valuing the act itself over a specific victim.
 
I asked "AI" to give me an analysis in conspiracy theorists.
Here's what it said.

Conspiracy theorists are individuals who believe in alternate explanations for events, often involving powerful, hidden groups, driven by psychological needs for control, certainty, and security. These beliefs are often resistant to contradictory evidence because they fulfill important psychological functions. AI-powered tools are showing promise in reducing conspiracy beliefs by engaging users in conversational dialogue that prompts critical thinking and provides evidence-based information, though some research indicates that the effectiveness of AI in this area may have limitations.

Analysis of conspiracy theorists

Psychological roots: Belief in conspiracy theories is linked to a need for control, certainty, and security, as well as a desire for uniqueness and a way to manage threat.

Cognitive biases: Several cognitive biases, including pattern perception, intentionality bias, proportionality bias, and confirmation bias, are believed to underlie belief in a conspiracy theory.

Resistance to evidence: Because these theories serve as a mechanism for psychological equilibrium, they can be highly resistant to counterevidence. They are not just opinions but deeply integrated beliefs.

Functionality: Conspiracy theories can provide a sense of order and meaning in a complex world, and they may be a way to cope with perceived threats from a hostile group.

AI as a tool for counteracting conspiracy theories

Conversational approach: AI chatbots can engage in personalized, conversational dialogues with users who hold conspiracy beliefs.
Reduced belief: Studies have shown that interacting with an AI chatbot can lead to a significant reduction in belief in conspiracy theories.

Long-term skepticism: The impact of these AI conversations can last for months, with participants developing more skepticism toward the conspiracy theories.

Behavioral changes: Participants in AI-led conversations have also reported being more likely to unfollow people who spread conspiracy theories online and engage in conversations that challenge those beliefs.

Potential for scale: AI tools have the potential to counter conspiracy theories at a large scale, such as by being integrated into search engines to provide accurate information for users searching for conspiracy-related terms.
 
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But if you ask relevant questions to get to the Truth Citizen accuses you of slander likening it to someone trying to damage my reputation by saying I abuse puppies. Slander is a crime, it is a reference to illegal speech.

This is referencing my post #1,131. I was giving a specific example of how people like Candace Owens use a question to form an accusation or mislead the pubic without evidence, and in doing so can slander others. Beside that, I cannot make sense of this rant.

So why does it matter so much to Citizen to go around accusing others of slander and then when it is undeniable that he did that why deny that you are trying to shut people up who don't agree with you?

Just for transparency, I'm a she. ;)
 
I asked "AI" to give me an analysis in conspiracy theorists.
A conspiracy is a plan by a group of people to do something illegal.

1. Most of us understand that there are FreeMasons and Satanists that have plans on world domination, by definition that is a conspiracy.

2. Most of us understand that Hollywood and the music industry are occultic, they are involved in witchcraft.

3. Most of us understand that the CIA, Mossad, and a number of other intelligence agencies also plan out illegal operations and so by definition are involved in conspiracies. The term "Black op" is a reference to such a conspiracy.

4. Most of us also understand from the Bible (Galatians) that spies have entered into the church to figure out how to bring the church into subjection. They came up with a 501C3 charitable organization where you have a board of directors. FreeMasons get on the board and steer the direction of the church. The focus is on increase, they teach Once Saved Always Saved, they disparage works and reward despite the Lord talking about both frequently, Pastors are told to not talk about certain topics, avoid prophecy, avoid Revelation, etc. We know that Satan can disguise himself as an angel of light. Jude warned us of the apostasy, Paul warned us of the apostasy, Peter educated us about false prophets, the entire book of James is about how to be rescued from a false teacher, and the church in Laodicea is the apostasy with Jesus Christ outside of the church knocking on the door to see if anyone will open to Him. As a result we have seen scandals with Tele evangelists, Prosperity gospel preachers, and churches like Calvary Chapel in California.

Therefore it should not surprise anyone that all of these things converge on TPUSA. Is it a Christian ministry or a political action group? Charlie Kirk started as a young man before he even went to college, and yet the donors poured money in, so much that he was concerned that $40 million might have been embezzled. This suggests a lot of money from a lot of wealthy people, and money is a root of all kinds of evil. Just like the board of directors of churches that are apostate, the board of directors of His ministry wanted to steer the ship and that is where the friction was. You can imagine that the CIA would be very interested in the organization described by some of the most powerful men in the US as the most powerful political organization in the country responsible for them being in power.

We should not be surprised since we were warned there would be wolves in sheep's clothing and we were told to discern all things.
 
A conspiracy is a plan by a group of people to do something illegal.

1. Most of us understand that there are FreeMasons and Satanists that have plans on world domination, by definition that is a conspiracy.

2. Most of us understand that Hollywood and the music industry are occultic, they are involved in witchcraft.

3. Most of us understand that the CIA, Mossad, and a number of other intelligence agencies also plan out illegal operations and so by definition are involved in conspiracies. The term "Black op" is a reference to such a conspiracy.

4. Most of us also understand from the Bible (Galatians) that spies have entered into the church to figure out how to bring the church into subjection. They came up with a 501C3 charitable organization where you have a board of directors. FreeMasons get on the board and steer the direction of the church. The focus is on increase, they teach Once Saved Always Saved, they disparage works and reward despite the Lord talking about both frequently, Pastors are told to not talk about certain topics, avoid prophecy, avoid Revelation, etc. We know that Satan can disguise himself as an angel of light. Jude warned us of the apostasy, Paul warned us of the apostasy, Peter educated us about false prophets, the entire book of James is about how to be rescued from a false teacher, and the church in Laodicea is the apostasy with Jesus Christ outside of the church knocking on the door to see if anyone will open to Him. As a result we have seen scandals with Tele evangelists, Prosperity gospel preachers, and churches like Calvary Chapel in California.

Therefore it should not surprise anyone that all of these things converge on TPUSA. Is it a Christian ministry or a political action group? Charlie Kirk started as a young man before he even went to college, and yet the donors poured money in, so much that he was concerned that $40 million might have been embezzled. This suggests a lot of money from a lot of wealthy people, and money is a root of all kinds of evil. Just like the board of directors of churches that are apostate, the board of directors of His ministry wanted to steer the ship and that is where the friction was. You can imagine that the CIA would be very interested in the organization described by some of the most powerful men in the US as the most powerful political organization in the country responsible for them being in power.

We should not be surprised since we were warned there would be wolves in sheep's clothing and we were told to discern all things.

I asked “ai” this question: how many conspiracy theorist are there?

This is what it said:

There is no exact number of conspiracy theorists worldwide, but studies indicate a significant portion of the population believes in at least one conspiracy theory. In the U.S., estimates vary, with some research suggesting over 50% of Americans believe in at least one conspiracy theory, while other surveys show around 10% agree with specific claims like the Earth being flat or the Moon landing being faked. Belief in these theories varies by topic, and research indicates that the internet makes it easier for communities with these beliefs to form and reinforce their views.

    • U.S. prevalence:
      Some studies indicate that over 50% of Americans believe in at least one conspiracy theory.
    • Specific theories:
      A 2022 survey found that about 10% of U.S. respondents agreed with specific conspiracy claims, such as the Earth being flat or COVID-19 vaccines containing microchips.
    • 9/11 belief:
      In the U.S., approximately 23% of Americans believe that 9/11 was an inside job, according to Statista.
    • Other beliefs:
      Other figures show that high percentages of Americans believe in other conspiracy theories, such as 35% believing a single group of people secretly controls the world, McGill University reports.
    • Demographics:
      Beliefs cross demographic lines and are not exclusive to a single group.
    • Reinforcement:
      The internet facilitates the formation of communities that reinforce these beliefs, even if it doesn't necessarily convert new people to the cause, McGill University notes.
 
It was always there if one goes back into his old statements, funding for his projects etc.,
He was a "useful idiot" so to speak, who was able to mobilize support because of his appeal.

He is part of the cover-up now, that much is obvious.

I am glad you are being objective about him.
I always come back to this fact about Trump - he's an actor, from way back. I hope the current movie in which he now stars is one with a happy ending.
 
I always come back to this fact about Trump - he's an actor, from way back. I hope the current movie in which he now stars is one with a happy ending.

It already has a happy ending because he's correcting all the mistakes from the leftist bad actors, so yes Trump is a good actor.
 
A conspiracy is a plan by a group of people to do something illegal.

1. Most of us understand that there are FreeMasons and Satanists that have plans on world domination, by definition that is a conspiracy.

2. Most of us understand that Hollywood and the music industry are occultic, they are involved in witchcraft.

3. Most of us understand that the CIA, Mossad, and a number of other intelligence agencies also plan out illegal operations and so by definition are involved in conspiracies. The term "Black op" is a reference to such a conspiracy.

4. Most of us also understand from the Bible (Galatians) that spies have entered into the church to figure out how to bring the church into subjection. They came up with a 501C3 charitable organization where you have a board of directors. FreeMasons get on the board and steer the direction of the church. The focus is on increase, they teach Once Saved Always Saved, they disparage works and reward despite the Lord talking about both frequently, Pastors are told to not talk about certain topics, avoid prophecy, avoid Revelation, etc. We know that Satan can disguise himself as an angel of light. Jude warned us of the apostasy, Paul warned us of the apostasy, Peter educated us about false prophets, the entire book of James is about how to be rescued from a false teacher, and the church in Laodicea is the apostasy with Jesus Christ outside of the church knocking on the door to see if anyone will open to Him. As a result we have seen scandals with Tele evangelists, Prosperity gospel preachers, and churches like Calvary Chapel in California.

Therefore it should not surprise anyone that all of these things converge on TPUSA. Is it a Christian ministry or a political action group? Charlie Kirk started as a young man before he even went to college, and yet the donors poured money in, so much that he was concerned that $40 million might have been embezzled. This suggests a lot of money from a lot of wealthy people, and money is a root of all kinds of evil. Just like the board of directors of churches that are apostate, the board of directors of His ministry wanted to steer the ship and that is where the friction was. You can imagine that the CIA would be very interested in the organization described by some of the most powerful men in the US as the most powerful political organization in the country responsible for them being in power.

We should not be surprised since we were warned there would be wolves in sheep's clothing and we were told to discern all things.
We know, from the Bible, that the religious leaders and political leaders had taken counsel on how to destroy Charlie Kirk

Mark 3:4 And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace.

Can you imagine how stupid it is to condemn those who are working in a soup kitchen as "works based salvation"? What is it violating the New Testament to feed the hungry? This is the kind of question that Charlie would ask with the banner "prove me wrong".

5 And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it out: and his hand was restored whole as the other.

Stretch out your hand, that is what I did when I started this blog. I remembered the book "12 Baskets Full" by Watchman Nee. He basically did the same thing I'm doing which is to read a verse and share what I got from it. For someone else stretching out their hand might mean to distribute gospel tracts, or it might mean to work in a food giveaway. Whatever it is, you have been given hands so that you can work. You have two hands, one hand might indicate how you serve in the church and the other hand is how you serve in a ministry. Charlie stretched forth his hand to work in a campus ministry.

6 And the Pharisees went forth, and straightway took counsel with the Herodians against him, how they might destroy him.

Know this, do not be ignorant and do not be naive. The minute you step forward to ministry is the same minute that Satan is taking counsel on how to destroy you. This is why we have the Lord leading us and the Holy Spirit guiding us. They are in your corner, listen to them intently. We have two factions, a religious faction and a political faction, both plotting your destruction and this takes place "straightway". Do not be fooled by the fact that they all are building Charlie's tomb and praising him as a man of God. Don't be fooled by the fact that they donated money and supported him. This is how Satan operates, he will seek to take control by giving money and if that does not work he will reveal himself as a thief and a murderer. When Charlie discovered there was a thief it was a temptation, expose the thief and damage your ministry or cover it up. He chose to do an audit, expose the thief, and live with the consequences. Therefore Satan had to kill him or else he would be exposed.
 
Here is an interview between Charlie Kirk and Candace, it is slightly longer than 1 minute. I saw this discussion and I thought "Wow! This is so appropriate." I have saved this so it cuts right to the beginning of this interview.

When you are in the foxhole with someone you want them to tell you the truth.
See the first comment? It talks about someone's experience visiting one of those Calvary Chapel churches (a Palestinian), and three of the leadership comes up and he immediately recognises them as Israeli Zionists, rather than Christians. When he calls them out, they just laugh, as if they didn't care that he knew as no one could do anything about it. Scary.

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I asked "AI" to give me an analysis in conspiracy theorists.
Here's what it said...

This is where it gets complicated. The groups I see [could be more] -

1. Those who reject ALL conspiracy theories.
2. Those who believe ALL/MOST conspiracy theories.
3. Moderates in the middle, like me. I would probably be considered a conspiracy theorist by group 1.

I'll question at all times - Covid, big pharma, depopulation, freemasons, NWO, WEF, UN, black pope, chemtrails, etc. [keeping in mind many of these are tied together] - and I'll believe/accept when there's proof. It's a narrowing down process from possible to probable to provable, so on.

Globalist [WEF, UN, EU...] agenda to bring about the world government resulting in global enslavement? Totally true, and the proof is easily found in their own documents and installed government leaders. Klaus Schwab literally bragged about it. The biden admin was deeply controlled and incorporated this agenda, often word for word, on whitehouse.gov.

Flat earth? No. Just stop with that.
 
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This is where it gets complicated. The groups I see [could be more] -

1. Those who reject ALL conspiracy theories.
2. Those who believe ALL/MOST conspiracy theories.
3. Moderates in the middle, like me. I would probably be considered a conspiracy theorist by group 1.

I'll question at all times - Covid, big pharma, depopulation, freemasons, NWO, WEF, UN, black pope, chemtrails, etc. [keeping in mind many of these are tied together] - and I'll believe/accept when there's proof. It's a narrowing down process from possible to probable to provable, so on.

Globalist [WEF, UN, EU...] agenda to bring about the world government resulting in global enslavement? Totally true, and the proof is easily found in their own documents and installed government leaders. Klaus Schwab literally bragged about it. The biden admin was deeply controlled and incorporated this agenda, often word for word, on whitehouse.gov.

Flat earth? No. Just stop with that.
conspiracy theorists don't understand the concept of Occam's razor
 
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This is where it gets complicated. The groups I see [could be more] -

1. Those who reject ALL conspiracy theories.
2. Those who believe ALL/MOST conspiracy theories.
3. Moderates in the middle, like me. I would probably be considered a conspiracy theorist by group 1.

I'll question at all times - Covid, big pharma, depopulation, freemasons, NWO, WEF, UN, black pope, chemtrails, etc. [keeping in mind many of these are tied together] - and I'll believe/accept when there's proof. It's a narrowing down process from possible to probable to provable, so on.

Globalist [WEF, UN, EU...] agenda to bring about the world government resulting in global enslavement? Totally true, and the proof is easily found in their own documents and installed government leaders. Klaus Schwab literally bragged about it. The biden admin was deeply controlled and incorporated this agenda, often word for word, on whitehouse.gov.

Flat earth? No. Just stop with that.

Agreed, to use human intelligence now instead of "artificial intelligence" this all to comes down to language and meaning which is also linked to purpose and then it's all in the details.
What are you saying and How are you saying it.

For example if you want to make some doom and gloom scenario about the vaccinees and it's on you to prove data, meaning and purpose behind whatever the conspiracy theory is about that which we then need to compare with the success and failure rate of another medication.
Then after we establish this we need to understand intent, purpose and meaning.
 
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If funds were embezzled then that person definitely profited from his death whereas the man accused of shooting him will pay the price.

And of course you have zero proof of any of this.




or you're biased by your own personal hatred of people who believe differently than you and you think anyone who believes differently than you must mean that they are okay with murder.

No, I'm biased against those making claims they cannot prove.

Show me the proof! Release the Kraken! Where's the beef? clueless.gif

Yeah so call that in to the FBI so the agents can have a good laugh laughing.gif



Yes, I also want to know how a random stranger on the internet profited from this

Nutjobs like Candance Owen are profiting from this


1. Those who reject ALL conspiracy theories.
2. Those who believe ALL/MOST conspiracy theories.
3. Moderates in the middle, like me. I would probably be considered a conspiracy theorist by group 1.

And please show me chapter and verse from God's Word telling His people to pay attention to conspiracy theories and sit around discussing this garbage rather than getting people saved and making disciples??? Where is that exactly in the New Testament?

The fact of the matter is there is all kinds of evil dark things happening in the world we live in, and so what?

None of that will change until Jesus returns and starts His 1000 Year Reign ruling this world with a hand of iron

There are many on the internet attacking anyone, like Candace and including Candace, that questions the official narrative on this assassination.

She's a catholic so already she's a nutjob that does not know the Lord and that rejects the Words of Jesus

Following her is as nutty as following John Calvin who like the catholics believed God wanted him to murder those that disagreed with his fake gospel and he did so because the "god" he served was satan just like the Candance Owens



Wow you accuse someone of slander, which is a crime

No, it's not a crime to call someone out for slander.

Your tinfoil hat must have slipped off there for a moment! rolleyes3.gif




See the first comment? It talks about someone's experience visiting one of those Calvary Chapel churches (a Palestinian), and three of the leadership comes up and he immediately recognises them as Israeli Zionists, rather than Christians. When he calls them out, they just laugh, as if they didn't care that he knew as no one could do anything about it. Scary.

Scary? Real Christians do not walk in fear.

The guy should have told the "three of the leadership" to pound sand and turn around and leave their fake "church"
 
We know, from the Bible, that the religious leaders and political leaders had taken counsel on how to destroy Charlie Kirk

Mark 3:4 And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace.

Can you imagine how stupid it is to condemn those who are working in a soup kitchen as "works based salvation"? What is it violating the New Testament to feed the hungry? This is the kind of question that Charlie would ask with the banner "prove me wrong".

5 And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it out: and his hand was restored whole as the other.

Stretch out your hand, that is what I did when I started this blog. I remembered the book "12 Baskets Full" by Watchman Nee. He basically did the same thing I'm doing which is to read a verse and share what I got from it. For someone else stretching out their hand might mean to distribute gospel tracts, or it might mean to work in a food giveaway. Whatever it is, you have been given hands so that you can work. You have two hands, one hand might indicate how you serve in the church and the other hand is how you serve in a ministry. Charlie stretched forth his hand to work in a campus ministry.

6 And the Pharisees went forth, and straightway took counsel with the Herodians against him, how they might destroy him.

Know this, do not be ignorant and do not be naive. The minute you step forward to ministry is the same minute that Satan is taking counsel on how to destroy you. This is why we have the Lord leading us and the Holy Spirit guiding us. They are in your corner, listen to them intently. We have two factions, a religious faction and a political faction, both plotting your destruction and this takes place "straightway". Do not be fooled by the fact that they all are building Charlie's tomb and praising him as a man of God. Don't be fooled by the fact that they donated money and supported him. This is how Satan operates, he will seek to take control by giving money and if that does not work he will reveal himself as a thief and a murderer. When Charlie discovered there was a thief it was a temptation, expose the thief and damage your ministry or cover it up. He chose to do an audit, expose the thief, and live with the consequences. Therefore Satan had to kill him or else he would be exposed.
The Mafia -- that is a conspiracy
Drug Cartels -- that is a conspiracy
Human Trafficking -- that is a conspiracy
A black op -- that is a conspiracy
Staging coup to install a puppet regime -- conspiracy
Gliewitz incident -- conspiracy
Gulf of Tonkin -- conspiracy
The Lavon affair -- conspiracy
The CTE scandal in NFL -- conspiracy
The cigarette companies were guilty of a conspiracy
Watergate -- conspiracy
Iran Contra -- conspiracy
My Lai -- conspiracy
Catholic Church coverup of abuse scandal -- conspiracy
J. Edgar Hoover smear campaigns -- conspiracy
The Dreyfus affair -- conspiracy
Russian doping scandals -- conspiracy
Enron scandal -- conspiracy
Tea Pot dome scandal -- conspiracy
Madoff scandal -- conspiracy
IRS scandal investigating Tea Party -- conspiracy
Worldcom scandal -- conspiracy
Savings and Loan crisis -- conspiracy
Lehman brothers bankruptcy -- conspiracy
etc.
 
No, it's not a crime to call someone out for slander.

Your tinfoil hat must have slipped off there for a moment! View attachment 282138
I see the cause of the misunderstanding here, you don't speak english. Yes, I am saying that accusing someone of slander is accusing them of committing a crime because slander is a crime. Putting it in print is libel which is also a crime. Alex Jones was sued for this crime (defamation is both slander and libel).

So to accuse someone of slander while at the same time saying you are not telling them to shut up is incongruous.

1. Are you encouraging them to commit a crime?

2. What is the point of accusing someone of slander if it is not to stop them from speaking?
 
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