Catholicism vs Protestantism

[Dan_473]

In this context satanic mean organized by Satan.

well, my current thinking is that Satan isn't very good at organizing movements.

so, no, I don't think the Catholic Church as a group is involved in a satanic movement, given the meaning you described.

One world religion may mean united all religion in the world.
In Semarang, Central Java indonesia, catholic priest (room Bodi) organize joint service between Christian and Muslim. The preacher was Muslim imam but the singer was Christian. This imam oftenly go to Vatican to meet some priest there.

I'm sure there are lots of anecdotes of priests acting in ways that I find objectionable.

but this is true for methodists as well.
I personally know a Methodist pastor who attended an interfaith "worship" service.
he has lots of wacky ideas anyways, so I guess it all fits.

but I consider him a Christian brother, as well as Methodist as a group.

dont you say Muslim worship true God? True God is trinity isn't it?

if you say worshipping God as a trinity is a required part of worshipping God, then have you reached a decision about this ↓ ?

thanks for the answer!

I think it's pretty important, so take all the time you want.

 

[Dan_473]

Since we will be judged by the word it has to instruct man in all things. The bible does not have to record every single thing Jesus did to equip man. It must include only what is essential for mankind to understand and obey.

a general question I have is whether all of the word of God is contained in the Bible.

for example
Psalm 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God. The expanse shows his handiwork. 2 Day after day they pour forth speech, and night after night they display knowledge. 3 There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard. 4 Their voice has gone out through all the earth, their words to the end of the world.

if the heavens, at God's direction, are declaring his glory, does that count as the word of God?

 

[Jackson123]

To those who have been made holy to God in Christ Jesus, who are called to be God’s people.

And Mormon that's don't believe Jesus God have been make Holy to God
Catholic that pray to Mary and organized one world religion is holy.

 

[Jackson123]

so, no, I don't think the Catholic Church as a group is involved in a satanic movement, given the meaning you described.

So united religion is not satanic, am I correct?

I'm sure there are lots of anecdotes of priests acting in ways that I find objectionable.

So, priest that organized united religion is anecdotes and objectionable am I correct?

Is that mean catholic as a whole that according to catholic culture.org, involve in one world religion, consider objectionable?

 

[Jackson123]

if you say worshipping God as a trinity is a required part of worshipping God, then have you reached a decision about this ↓ ?

I don't understand what it mean

 

[Benadam]

God went to the trouble to Incarnate Truth on earth in time and history, establish it among men unadulterated with error and gifted a teaching body to spread it infallibly, for it to end and His Church to be seeking that unadulterated Word of God?

 

[Jackson123]

but are you talking about an evil, satanic one world religion? Yes

I don't know if Satan can send his helpers wherever he wants, or how many helpers he has.

You not sure how many helper Satan have, but you believe Satan able to create one world religion,
Seem to me Satan have a lot of help. 1/3 of angle + catholic or Protestant that help unite all religions is his helper isn't it?

You believe there will be God one world religion. It must not involve Islam isn't it?

Than you believe there will be satanic one world religion.

https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=166

Wich one is this one world religion, satanic or Godly ?

 

[Peterlag]

Is that Dispensationalism under another name?

I have just heard of this "Dispensationalism" this year. I believe it's a name someone put on what seems to me is common sense.

 

[Bede]

Since we will be judged by the word it has to instruct man in all things. The bible does not have to record every single thing Jesus did to equip man. It must include only what is essential for mankind to understand and obey.

That is your personal opinion.
You said "I am not interested in peoples opinions."
Why should I be interest in yours?

 

[Bede]

I have just heard of this "Dispensationalism" this year. I believe it's a name someone put on what seems to me is common sense.

Why is it common sense? The Bible does not speak of many administrations but it does speak of many Covenants.
The six major ones are:
Adamic
Noahic
Abrahamic
Mosaic
Davidic
New Covenant
But there are others.

Covenant is a major theme throughout the Bible.

 

[Bede]

You not sure how many helper Satan have, but you believe Satan able to create one world religion,
Seem to me Satan have a lot of help. 1/3 of angle + catholic or Protestant that help unite all religions is his helper isn't it?

You believe there will be God one world religion. It must not involve Islam isn't it?

Than you believe there will be satanic one world religion.

https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=166

Wich one is this one world religion, satanic or Godly ?

The article you linkedwas headlined: "One-World Church Expected This Year"
It was published in 1997!!!!

It obviously failed.

 

[Dan_473]

And Mormon that's don't believe Jesus God have been make Holy to God
Catholic that pray to Mary and organized one world religion is holy.

I believe the part of my post that you are quoting there is a quote from 1st Corinthians, so if you are disagreeing your disagreement would be with the scriptures.

or are you disagreeing with the translation?

1-2 I, Paul, have been called and sent by Jesus, the Messiah, according to God’s plan, along with my friend Sosthenes. I send this letter to you in God’s church at Corinth, believers cleaned up by Jesus and set apart for a God-filled life. I include in my greeting all who call out to Jesus, wherever they live. He’s their Master as well as ours!
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Corinthians+1&version=MSG

1-3 What I want to talk about now is the various ways God’s Spirit gets worked into our lives. This is complex and often misunderstood, but I want you to be informed and knowledgeable. Remember how you were when you didn’t know God, led from one phony god to another, never knowing what you were doing, just doing it because everybody else did it? It’s different in this life. God wants us to use our intelligence, to seek to understand as well as we can. For instance, by using your heads, you know perfectly well that the Spirit of God would never prompt anyone to say “Jesus be damned!” Nor would anyone be inclined to say “Jesus is Master!” without the insight of the Holy Spirit.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+12&version=MSG

 

[Jackson123]

The article you linkedwas headlined: "One-World Church Expected This Year"
It was published in 1997!!!!

It obviously failed.

That is mean catholic culture.org failed

 

[Jackson123]

I believe the part of my post that you are quoting there is a quote from 1st Corinthians, so if you are disagreeing your disagreement would be with the scriptures.

or are you disagreeing with the translation?

1-2 I, Paul, have been called and sent by Jesus, the Messiah, according to God’s plan, along with my friend Sosthenes. I send this letter to you in God’s church at Corinth, believers cleaned up by Jesus and set apart for a God-filled life. I include in my greeting all who call out to Jesus, wherever they live. He’s their Master as well as ours!
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Corinthians+1&version=MSG

1-3 What I want to talk about now is the various ways God’s Spirit gets worked into our lives. This is complex and often misunderstood, but I want you to be informed and knowledgeable. Remember how you were when you didn’t know God, led from one phony god to another, never knowing what you were doing, just doing it because everybody else did it? It’s different in this life. God wants us to use our intelligence, to seek to understand as well as we can. For instance, by using your heads, you know perfectly well that the Spirit of God would never prompt anyone to say “Jesus be damned!” Nor would anyone be inclined to say “Jesus is Master!” without the insight of the Holy Spirit.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+12&version=MSG

I really don't understand what you talking about, my brother
Why you accused me not agree the scripture?
You read English hundred time better than me don't you

Paul wrote letter to the church in Corinth, not to Buddhist temple in Japan, or Mormon temple in California.

 

[Dan_473]

So united religion is not satanic, am I correct?

well, being united is what Christians are to strive for
12-13 You can easily enough see how this kind of thing works by looking no further than your own body. Your body has many parts—limbs, organs, cells—but no matter how many parts you can name, you’re still one body. It’s exactly the same with Christ. By means of his one Spirit, we all said good-bye to our partial and piecemeal lives. We each used to independently call our own shots, but then we entered into a large and integrated life in which he has the final say in everything. (This is what we proclaimed in word and action when we were baptized.) Each of us is now a part of his resurrection body, refreshed and sustained at one fountain—his Spirit—where we all come to drink.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+12&version=MSG

I don't think the Catholic Church as a group is partnering with Satan to organize a one-world religion, if that's what you're asking.

So, priest that organized united religion is anecdotes and objectionable am I correct?

I think the story qualifies as an anecdote, yes.

I object in the sense that I don't understand why some Christians want to worship with other religions.
but this is different from saying that Jews and Muslims worship a different god.

14 You are not the same as those who do not believe. So do not join yourselves to them. Good and bad do not belong together. Light and darkness cannot share together. 15 How can Christ and Belial, the devil, have any agreement? What can a believer have together with a nonbeliever? 16 The temple of God cannot have any agreement with idols, and we are the temple of the living God. As God said: “I will live with them and walk with them. And I will be their God, and they will be my people.”
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+6&version=NCV

Is that mean catholic as a whole that according to catholic culture.org, involve in one world religion, consider objectionable?

as I understand it, catholic culture.org is not the official voice of the Catholic Church.

 

[Jackson123]

well, being united is what Christians are to strive for

So you believe Christian must unite with Muslim?

I object in the sense that I don't understand why some Christians want to worship with other religions.

but this is different from saying that Jews and Muslims worship a different god.

So you believe Jews and Muslim worship the same god?
How about Christian and Jew?

 

[Jackson123]

as I understand it, catholic culture.org is not the official voice of the Catholic Church.

So you believe catholic culture. Org lie?

 

[jaybo]

So you believe Christian must unite with Muslim?

So you believe Jews and Muslim worship the same god?
How about Christian and Jew?

Christians and Jews worship the same God.

 

[Jackson123]

It sound scary

 

[Dan_473]

I don't understand what it mean

well, how about if we take a look at the last few posts on that subject:

interesting conclusion, my brother Jackson!

using the method of not interpreting letter by letter,

"As I walked around, I looked carefully at the things you worship.

...you don’t know what you are worshiping. Now I am going to tell you about this ‘unknown god.’
He is the God who made the world."
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+17&version=NIRV

the Athenians and Paul were worshiping the same God.

Jackson123 said:
Thank my brother Dan, I read that and compare to the whole picture of what bible talking about, and I don't think Paul believe they worship God in the way God want to.

Dan
that's right! they weren't worshipping God in the way that God wanted them to.
but they were worshipping God.
do you agree with that?

Jackson
I am not sure

thanks for the answer!

I think it's pretty important, so take all the time you want.

Have you reached a conclusion, or do you wish more time?