What a load of horse manure! Christ alone is the only means of God's deserving grace. Grace is based entirely on what Christ earned for God's chosen people! No sinner in this universe deserves God's grace at any time!
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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What a load of horse manure! Christ alone is the only means of God's deserving grace. Grace is based entirely on what Christ earned for God's chosen people! No sinner in this universe deserves God's grace at any time!
Of what, exactly, do you think I'm ignorant? Step up like a man and defend your slander.
Repentance~~A change of mind.
A change of mind about the Lord Jesus Christ........The way, the truth and the life.
One can Change their mind about their sin and way of life till they are blue in the face.
UNTIL one changes their mind/repents of who and what the Lord Jesus Christ is, they are hopeless.
your backbone speech may wash with your ignorant newfound friends you've found but not me, there just typical people who jump on the band wagon to think of themselves more highly, just like you now sadly.
change of mind is only the first step, but no doubt for you it's the only step.
Metanoia the greek word for repentance is based on different understanding, and the best one I've found is a mighty change of mind and heart, leading to spiritual renewal, which only comes from God,
But you don't know that step in my book, as if you did you would of quitted your drama long ago.
The only spiritual "insight" Genez has is into his own very dark nether regions where the sun never shines.
And you're still out of your mind! What parts of Jn 17:2, 24 can't you understand?
The only worth any believer has in his/her identity and union with their Federal Head. Christ is ALL (Col 3:11)! This is why the saints will humbly cast their crowns before His feet (Rev 4:10-11).
You guys consistently and constantly leave the Lord Jesus Christ out of your "equation" and "gospel."
His very name is salvation.......
So, Job didn't persevere in the faith by God's grace? Job gets all the credit for persevering by the power of his mighty will?
The very next Verse tells us WHO (those given to Jesus) are.
25 Righteous Father, the world did not know You, but I knew You; and these knew that You sent Me
Clearly talking about the Disciples.
No your imagination of what people are actually saying here does, all along the people you have constantly referred to as no good Calvies have consistently said it's the lord which changes you, where as you and your crew have constantly ignored that and change everything they've said, because you all put your free will first.. and the biggest joke is mans will lives in the flesh.
Which means your love for God is in your belly
no suprise he does view it that way since he believes sin is not evil,A believer who loved the wages of his wickedness?
I'm wondering if where actually talking to real life Satanists to be honest.
interesting @Dino246 you flip past his post falsely implying we don't represent the lord and then put your thumbs down to my defense.
Yep your ignorance shines through again, give yourself a pat on the back mate
I don't like your response, period. You seem incapable of making a response without throwing in a negative personal comment. Your continual insults definitely do not represent the Lord.
Yes, the 11 knew that Jesus was the Sent One. But that doesn't change the fact that He prayed for THEM and for all THOSE who would believe on him through their preaching. He just didn't pray for the 11 (v. 20). God didn't give just the 11 to Him. This is why all the ones given to Christ by the Father are bookended by vv. 2 and 24. Verse 24 doesn't say, I want "them", rather I want "THOSE you have given me"...-- and the the "those" are the ones who will come to faith in the future through the preaching of "them".
You lame, willfully blinded, wanna-be exegetes truly have a difficult time with pronouns, don't you?
oh behave yourself your being hypocritical again,
You've thrown more personal remarks at me than a gay person fighting for gay rights,
Where's your back bone now your so fond of, well its no where because you obviously don't have enough courage to put these ignoramus people in there place, and only those rightly calling there disrespect out,
What part of "exploiting grace" did you not hear?
@Genez has made it known in umpteen posts that grace is God's working policy and that we receive nothing apart from grace.
You give the impression we have absolutely no part to play in our growth, that it all just happens automatically. Even physical growth requires something of us on our part, we have to eat what is presented.