Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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They are not truly blaming me when they refer to me as Pelagian, heretical, natural man, deluded, blind, or any other term they choose to use. They are blaming God's "unchangeable, sovereign decree," according to their own theology. After all, per Calvinism, that is what led me to hold my beliefs. My ideas, conclusions, theology, and rejection of Calvinism were all shaped by His unchangeable, unalterable eternal decree. They can label what I believe heresy if they so choose, but if Calvinism is accurate, they have just labeled God's eternal decree as heretical. Naturally, they will never acknowledge that. They will either conceal themselves behind the mystery curtain, spiritualize it, or speculate about it. However, the reasoning is too simple: if everything, including my theology, was predetermined by God, then their fight is with God, not with me. And they are aware of it.They therefore require presuppositions. They must therefore use "His thoughts are not my thoughts and His ways are not my ways”, as well saying “mystery" to conceal their discrepancies. They must therefore say “You’d have to ask God that” to conceal confusion. Calvinism persists because it is shielded by excuses, not because it is biblical or logical.
 
Blue155 said:
Calvinism persists because it is shielded by excuses, not because it is biblical or logical.
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Yes, I would just add from my experience on this thread the meaning of words are often changed.

Depending on the context, they avoid the correct meaning within that context and apply the wrong meaning in order to support their "system."
 
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Blue155 said:
They are not truly blaming me when they refer to me as Pelagian, heretical, natural man, deluded, blind, or any other term they choose to use. They are blaming God's "unchangeable, sovereign decree," according to their own theology. After all, per Calvinism, that is what led me to hold my beliefs. My ideas, conclusions, theology, and rejection of Calvinism were all shaped by His unchangeable, unalterable eternal decree. They can label what I believe heresy if they so choose, but if Calvinism is accurate, they have just labeled God's eternal decree as heretical. Naturally, they will never acknowledge that. They will either conceal themselves behind the mystery curtain, spiritualize it, or speculate about it. However, the reasoning is too simple: if everything, including my theology, was predetermined by God, then their fight is with God, not with me. And they are aware of it.They therefore require presuppositions. They must therefore use "His thoughts are not my thoughts and His ways are not my ways”, as well saying “mystery" to conceal their discrepancies. They must therefore say “You’d have to ask God that” to conceal confusion. Calvinism persists because it is shielded by excuses, not because it is biblical or logical.
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My will is stronger than you think, 🤐🤩
 
Blue155 said:
They are not truly blaming me when they refer to me as Pelagian, heretical, natural man, deluded, blind, or any other term they choose to use. They are blaming God's "unchangeable, sovereign decree," according to their own theology. After all, per Calvinism, that is what led me to hold my beliefs. My ideas, conclusions, theology, and rejection of Calvinism were all shaped by His unchangeable, unalterable eternal decree. They can label what I believe heresy if they so choose, but if Calvinism is accurate, they have just labeled God's eternal decree as heretical. Naturally, they will never acknowledge that. They will either conceal themselves behind the mystery curtain, spiritualize it, or speculate about it. However, the reasoning is too simple: if everything, including my theology, was predetermined by God, then their fight is with God, not with me. And they are aware of it.They therefore require presuppositions. They must therefore use "His thoughts are not my thoughts and His ways are not my ways”, as well saying “mystery" to conceal their discrepancies. They must therefore say “You’d have to ask God that” to conceal confusion. Calvinism persists because it is shielded by excuses, not because it is biblical or logical.
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you need the correct Calvin bells m

But this is Calvin your Calvin hero


And this mine stupidity will be dealt with accordingly
 
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Blue155 said:
@HeIsHere @cv5 @Genez @Bible_Highlighter If our rejection of Calvinism is decreed by God, then Calvinists are sinning by saying we are wrong or in error, because they’re saying God’s eternal will is wrong and is error.

They are having God to eternally decree against His own eternal decrees! 😂😂
They’re not actually arguing against us. They’re arguing with their own doctrine.

They are basically saying: “God sovereignly ordained you to be wrong!! How dare you obey His decree?!”
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your self election be our Calvin teacher is something I enjoy 🤩
 
HeIsHere said:
Yes, I would just add from my experience on this thread the meaning of words are often changed.

Depending on the context, they avoid the correct meaning within that context and apply the wrong meaning in order to support their "system."
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many are called few are chosen
 
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HeIsHere said:
Yes, I would just add from my experience on this thread the meaning of words are often changed.

Depending on the context, they avoid the correct meaning within that context and apply the wrong meaning in order to support their "system."
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I now think it’s hilarious when they say “Perhaps you should take up with God” or when they call us names, because in all actuality, it is them who should take it up with God for taking issue with His eternal decree, per Calvinism.
 
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I now think it’s hilarious when they say “Perhaps you should take up with God” or when they call us names, because in all actuality, it is them who should take it up with God for taking issue His eternal decree, per Calvinism.
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nice post m just imagine tho if he hadn't of decreed Calvinism

You would not have anything to get excited by 🤩
 
Now in a mind that's suffering separation from God.

The fear of death is no joke

And when God says few are chosen in that the mind, that's suffering or shall we say conscience

It is then they realise they need to be chosen

Because God is a super duper rooster of all men.
 
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Blue155 said:
I now think it’s hilarious when they say “Perhaps you should take up with God” or when they call us names, because in all actuality, it is them who should take it up with God for taking issue with His eternal decree, per Calvinism.
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God's eternal decree is salvation. Strange how the Calvinists missed that part.
 
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Cameron143 said:
The fact that millions of people have lived and died without ever hearing the gospel isn't in dispute.
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OHHHHHH, yes it is. You completely dismiss the super natural witness of the Father, the Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. COMPLETELY!

Unless........ the millions were living around and with calvies........Then I could believe that millions lived and died without ever hearing the Gospel.
 
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