Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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LifelongLearner said:
I'm replying to your erroneous comments, you're not the sort of person i enjoy discussion with.
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It seems a popular thing to do, to connect the ability of making choices with having a will that is free, but in
making that decision to believe the will is free, they throw over a plethora of Scriptures that teach the opposite.
Freedom of the will has been debated since before Jesus walked this world. Its roots are in ancient Greek philosophy.

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Colossians 2 v 8, Romans 16 v 18, Romans 10 v 2, Proverbs 19 v 2a ~ See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, which are based on human tradition and the spiritual forces of the world rather than on Christ. For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. For I testify about them that they are zealous for God, but not on the basis of knowledge. Zeal is no good without knowledge. They teach as doctrine the precepts of men.
 
LifelongLearner said:
Yep, i too think Adam and Eve had free will. However, we're fallen, free will is impossible for us because of our own contamination and that of others. We're incapable of pure, ethical choices, which is what leads to misery, strife, wars etc.
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Of course we can still choose and use our gift of dominion to walk with Him or defy Him.
We are now required to take ALL things to Holy Spirit who will guide speak and show all truth, just as Jesus modeled for us, He only did and said what He heard the Father do and say.
best wishes
 
Mem said:
You are not welcome here; in this thread I mean. But you are welcome. :love:
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Actually, it's their reposting literally the same comment i've answered several times which is the issue Mem. Not sure Blue's doing it deliberately but it is a form of trolling when deliberate.
 
LifelongLearner said:
That is one interesting comment, cheers friend! :cool:
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Thank you, dear... and you know, the most perplexing thing about them not wanting to die is that they
simply could have eaten from the Tree of Life. But they did also want to be like God, which is at least in
part interpreted as a desire for independence, the ability to determine right and wrong for themselves,
and the attainment of godlike wisdom and control. So like the natural man, who has that same desire
paired with the inability to obey and/or submit to God. Free willers keep denying this Biblical truth.
 
LifelongLearner said:
Actually, it's their reposting literally the same comment i've answered several times which is the issue Mem. Not sure Blue's doing it deliberately but it is a form of trolling when deliberate.
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You have not, but you are freely inclined to feel that way (as does unbelievers), which proves they are exercising the same choice that you claim to now have as a believer (free will) that you say unbelievers don’t have.
 
LifelongLearner said:
Actually, it's their reposting literally the same comment i've answered several times which is the issue Mem. Not sure Blue's doing it deliberately but it is a form of trolling when deliberate.
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I've heard it asserted that a sign of insanity is to keep doing the same thing when one keeps getting the same results but still expects to get a different result.
 
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Mem said:
I've heard it asserted that a sign of insanity is to keep doing the same thing when one keeps getting the same results but still expects to get a different result.
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I’ve heard that. I confess I am insane lol.
 
Mem said:
I've heard it asserted that a sign of insanity is to keep doing the same thing when one keeps getting the same results but still expects to get a different result.
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Just as well i only hoped, not expected to get a different reply Mem, it's just proved my suspicion it's a troll was right :love:
 
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