Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

[Magenta]

John 3 v 20-21 ~ Everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come into the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. But whoever practices the truth comes into the Light, so that it may be seen clearly that what he has done has been accomplished in God.

 

[Jordon]

Do you know what the word 'pompous' means?

do know what recognise means ?

In this case recognising someone is offended

Is it wise to offend them some more

 

[Magenta]

Hey, did you catch it when one of our free willers claimed that Jesus said something He did not? Oh, well, that is not unusual. They are often quite busy rewriting Scripture because they do not like what it actually says. They contradict and deny quite a few things He said. Anyways, this one God blasphemer claimed Jesus said only those who choose to sin are slaves to sin, and that is only those who deny that God exists (the fools we know as atheists). But that was just another one of his lies, you know. Jesus said everyone who sins is a slave to sin. But these FWers must rewrite Scripture to suit their self-exalting theology. They hate what the Bible says of man. That is part of what makes them heretics!

Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin." John 8 v 34 Not, only those who choose to sin or only atheists. Everyone who sins is a slave to sin. Romans 3 v 23 - all have sinned...

 

[Genez]

Exactly. The rest of what you say is the opposite of the truth.

The free will claim is that the man without the indwelling Holy Spirit of God will choose to believe what
he is opposed to as a God hater. It is the core of what they promote, contrary to what Scripture actually says.

Otherwise, they are agreeing with us. And we know that ain't the truth.

I don't expect you to understand, though. They promote so much error it is ridiculous.

"Free will" in the Bible? ~ Freedom is something believers are called to (Galatians 5 verse 13). We need Jesus to “set us free” (Galatians 5 verse 1). If Jesus has not freed us from the bondage of sin, then we are still slaves to sin (Romans 6 verses 6-7). Freedom is found in the presence of the Spirit (2 Corinthians 3 verse 17). Only Jesus can give us true freedom (John 8 verse 36). Only through His lovingkindness can we truly make choices unfettered by a nature that is inherently hostile toward God.

It is your failure in understanding how grace can function that makes you unable to stop being inflexible and rigid in your thinking.
Naturally born man is body and soul. It's the soul from whence the depravity comes.

 

[Magenta]

You should see the way some of these FWer mock what the Bible says of man. They hate it...

“Why do you call Me good?” Jesus replied. “No one is good except God alone. Mark ch. 10 verse 18 and Luke ch. 18 verse 19 “There is only One who is good.” Matthew ch. 19 verse 17b. There is no one who does good. fr Psalm ch. 14. There is no one righteous, not even one. Romans ch. 3 verse 10. They are corrupt; their ways are vile. There is no one who does good. All have turned away, they have together become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one. fr Psalm ch. 53 verses 1-3. Surely there is no righteous man on earth who does good and never sins. Ecclesiastes ch. 7 verse 20. For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

 

[Magenta]

Despite what the un-Biblical free will doctrine promoters put forth, the natural man does not have everything he needs in order to grow the good fruit of faith from the stony ground of his incurably wicked heart which is opposed to the things of God, and he cannot change himself, being a lover of darkness who suppresses the truth in unrighteousness as a slave to sin, being inherently hostile in his mind toward God, and blinded to the truth while under the power of the evil one. Those who promote the free will of the natural man reject a plethora of Biblical truths. Praise God if Jesus has set you free!

 

[Genez]

do know what recognise means ?

In this case recognising someone is offended

Is it wise to offend them some more

I understand that Brits are often very proper.
Are you British?

What may offend you, will be not to another.

Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.​

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Psalm 119.165​

 

[Jordon]

Do you know what the word 'pompous' means?

do you recognise that someone spent a lot of time expressing what was hurting his feelings.

Nope you never, you just went and hurt them some more

 

[Magenta]

There is no one who understands, no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one. For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace. For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot. Those who are in the flesh cannot please God. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will. Romans 3 verses 11-12; Romans 8 verses 5-8; 2 Timothy 2 verses 25-26

 

[Magenta]

"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him." John 6 verse 44 The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 2 verse 14 For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot. Those who are in the flesh cannot please God. Romans 8 verse 7-8

 

[Magenta]

All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3 v 23). There is no one who does not sin (from 1 Kings 8 v 46). No one living is righteous before You (from Psalm 143 v 2). If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us (1 John 1 v 8). Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin.” (John 8 v 34) And this is the verdict: The Light has come into the world, but men loved the darkness rather than the Light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come into the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed (John 3 v 19-20). The heart is incurably wicked (Jeremiah 17 v 9). What is evil? Sin is evil. Stop sugar coating it. All men sin, and commit evil in the sight of God. There are none good, no, not one! A bad tree cannot bring forth good fruit.

 

[Jordon]

I understand that Brits are often very proper.
Are you British?

What may offend you, will be not to another.

Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.​

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Psalm 119.165​

yep well sensitivity is a lesson to Be learned. Perhaps one day you'll know about that

 

[Blain]

ok bro well we know that in some situation the good cop would shoot a person in the leg first,.where as some cops would shoot people in the head.

Would he let nature run it corse in this occasion.

If i could of shot that person in the leg but chose to shoot him in the head

Well if it can be avoided then one should take the route that doesn't lead to killing now depending on the circumstances one may have no choice but to shoot in the head so yes God would let things run their course

 

[cv5]

“a lot of people here who actually understand”?
Don't kid yourself! You select those that you believe understand, simply because they support your belief. We all do that! They could be 10 yrs old and you will still support them because they are in lock-step with your understanding, and they offer support in times that you are at a loss for words.
It has absolutely nothing to do with age!

With the utmost sincerity I can say that I do feel a great deal of pity for you and the others of your genre. It's a tragedy to watch all of you crash and burn at every apex.

But.....you and you alone are to blame for being stubbornly unteachable. All of you had the benefit of some top notch mentors ready and eager to assist.....but to no avail. The good faith and hard work were squandered.

Maybe relief will come for you all at some point in the future God only knows. Right now prospects look dim.

 

[Jordon]

Well if it can be avoided then one should take the route that doesn't lead to killing now depending on the circumstances one may have no choice but to shoot in the head so yes God would let things run their course

if it was a child of God, do you think they may listen to the call not to shoot in the head recognising that message was coming from God.

God was relating that message because the killer has become like Moses. Enraged by disrespect out of un-just treatment,

 

[Jordon]

With the utmost sincerity I can say that I do feel a great deal of pity for you and the others of your genre. It's a tragedy to watch all of you crash and burn at every apex.

But.....you and you alone are to blame for being stubbornly unteachable. All of you had the benefit of some top notch mentors ready and eager to assist.....but to no avail. The good faith and hard work were squandered.

Maybe relief will come for you all at some point in the future God only knows. Right now prospects look dim.

well sir if you call that humility, I would call this humiliation

 

[Blain]

if it was a child of God, do you think they may listen to the call not to shoot in the head recognising that message was coming from God.

God was relating that message because the killer has become like Moses. Enraged by disrespect out of un-just treatment,

Yes I believe a child of God would listen and not take the kill shot

 

[Jordon]

Yes I believe a child of God would listen and not take the kill shot

and if they never listened what would be the best cause of action from God ?

 

[Genez]

well sir if you call that humility, I would call this humiliation

Jesus humiliated religious people.....

So much so. They demanded his death on a cross.

 

[Jordon]

Jesus humiliated religious people.....

So much so. They demanded his death on a cross.

Does that make it ok for you to do the same .

Are you sure his intension was to humiliate ?

Or could there be another intension.

I do hope so because your first intension speaks of an out of character approach by Jesus

I'm not sure I've seen any scripture where Jesus likes to humiliate people

Are you listening to satan again ?