Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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I understand that.
You are no fool. I believe you see EXACTLY what the implications are in those 2 statements.
It surely is, they read scripture through that all encompassing "calvinist" lens, and it really adds an entire interpretative layer.
So "hear" can no longer be hear as normally understood within the context of how it used in the particular text, their lens demands it be a supernatural event if the person is one of the preselected.
Can you quote the entire post. It is obviously a false statement. IF I wrote that, I wrote in error. Sure would like to see the entire post.
That's why God created subtitles and captions and translators and...
BTW, He also did periodically supernaturally overcome linguistic barriers. Maybe He still does but I've never actually experienced it. Conflating linguistic differences with supernatural hearing is silly.
in a nutshell ...
agapaō is a self-sacrificial love ... for God so loved (agapaō) the world that He gave His only begotten son ...
phileō is a deep affection, close friendship, the close bond between family and friends
Here is some info from biblehub.com
Strong’s Greek 5368 (phileō) expresses warm affection, friendship, or fond attachment. While agapaō emphasizes commitment and self-giving, phileō highlights felt emotion, personal delight, and relational intimacy. The New Testament employs phileō both positively—to reveal genuine devotion between God and His people—and negatively—to expose misplaced affections that rival love for God.
if you interested in a deeper dive into these verses (John 21:16-17, please let me know and we can get into that discussion.
hope/pray you have a blessed day Jackson129 ...
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What else can a sinful nature do but be willfully rebellious since those in the flesh (sin nature) cannot please God. Hence, the analogy between parts "a" and "b" of v. 13. Israel did not have the power to change its sinful nature anymore than the Ethiopian did the color of his skin or the leopard its spots.
Do you not know the post you quoted from. I'm interested to find the post and read it. Can you identify the thread and post number you quoted?
It may not have been your post, as it looks like the coding had been messed up and our self-proclaimed great researcher missed that fact.
https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...ercise-free-will.218061/page-185#post-5538831
Yes, and I followed the links back (do you know how to do that?) to the post she had quoted which is what you asked about.
I gave the link. The first part of your post had messed up coding which looked like something someone else had said because it ended with the end quote tags, and the quote was messed up because there was no opening quote tag... so it is impossible to determine who said that opening part of the post. After the closing quote tag, is what you actually said, but heishere quoted the part before the closing quote tags.
Regardless of the messed up reply, it is well documented in this and other threads you teach saving faith is part of the gift.