maybe you should be asking why people get annoyed 30000 provocative posts ago but you don't provoke anyone, your behaviour is acceptable to you, so you can rule yourself out
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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Agree. Thieme describes this kind of personal motivation in great detail.
Out of which come the realization of Divine rewards and blessing so promised to the overcomer.
Mat 13:12
For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
Proof! You keep screwing up reality...
Silly person you are!
I bet you really love Donald Trump.
But Jesus did pray to those who would be evangelized by the 11 (and other disciples Jesus had during his first century ministry) and who would come to believe that Jesus was sent by God.
Since you reject the very clear teaching of Jn 17, then you must not consider yourself to be part of that second group for whom Jesus prayed and, therefore, not a believer. And you also, evidently, don't believe that you, as a professing believer, are a son of Abraham since you never answered my question from yesterday.
Your own words and lack of words condemn you!
Not once in Scripture is Christ portrayed as "eating Himself" on behalf on the sinner. Not to be found anywhere.
You are dead wrong in your Calvinist pretentions. Yet you persist despite all of the evidence to the contrary.
So then why the hardened heart? Do you feel that you are somehow exceptional and thus excepted due to some fantastical "chosenite status" and need not partake of the Passover?
Jhn 6:57
As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
Jhn 6:58
This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.
Jhn 6:53
Then G3767 Jesus G2424 said G2036 unto them, G846 Verily, G281 verily, G281 I say G3004 unto you, G5213 Except G1437 G3361 ye eat G5315 the G3588 flesh G4561 of the G3588 Son G5207 of man, G444 and G2532 drink G4095 his G846 blood, G129 ye have G2192 no G3756 life G2222 in G1722 you. G1438
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g1437/kjv/tr/0-1/
Inflected:ἐὰν
Root:ἐάν
Strong's: G1437
Code: COND
Speech: Conditional Particle or Conjunction
More lies from the pit of hell! You are just like your spiritual father who never quits lying!
Luke 7:50
50 Jesus said to the woman, "Your faith has saved you; go in peace."
NIV
Luke 8:48
48 Then he said to her, "Daughter, your faith has healed you. Go in peace."
NIV
Luke 17:19
19 Then he said to him, "Rise and go; your faith has made you well."
NIV
Luke 18:42
42 Jesus said to him, "Receive your sight; your faith has healed you."
NIV
I am accepted by God based on my position in Christ, as are all who are accepted of God. I am not special in and of myself. Just an ordinary person. I was, however, chosen by God unto salvation. I didn't go looking for God. He came and found me in my helpless estate and rescued me.
My heart is not hardened as you have claimed. And neither am I a Calvinist. And the proof you speak of is sorely wanting. While you offer verses concerning the obligations of man in response to God as a result of God coming to an individual in salvation, and rightly so, you neglect to record the work of God in the individual that solicits such responses and the necessity of God coming in these ways given the estate of fallen man. Hence, you render salvation to the whims of man and exalt his response in salvation as the cause of it. This is not what scripture teaches.
Did you notice that @cv5 made his very clear and true case, based on scripture in context and rightly divided.
I noticed he only ever deals with man's response, and never speaks of the activity of God.
Did you notice I said it is right to mention the one, but is an error to leave out the work of God.
Yes we are waiting for the clear scripture, in context which explicitly explains/teaches that God regenerates a person before faith.
Really? Is this supposed to be @Cameron143 's manifesto of HIS way of salvation?
Sorry, not buying it, as I see NO BIBLICAL PROOFS anywhere.
Fake sorry.
You need to learn that imposing your views on people causes people to become uncomfortable, if you could be a good brother then you will take notice to treat people more kindly, which I really shouldn't be having to tell a much older person than me this , if you say your as old as you say you are, you should be mature enough and kind enough by now to talk to people nicely without making loads of false representations, I'm pretty sure Christ makes people kind.and it doesn't take very long for kindness to show in Good people.
Ridiculous. Since when are the explicit commands of Jesus not the activity of God?
Here - it's called the New Covenant. God alone executes, and satisfies all of its aspects, stipulation and provisions - man satisfies none of it. Therefore, before anyone can have true faith and believe, they must first be placed under it by God, whereby are they spiritually changed by God that they truly believe. Being placed under the New Covenant is to have been saved, so, salvation therefore must occur first, and from that, belief. We know this because in it we are told that the sins and iniquities of those under it will God remember no more and that God writes His laws into their hearts and minds.
[Heb 10:12-17 KJV]
12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
15 [Whereof] the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16 This [is] the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
[Eze 36:26 KJV]
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Another desperation play that has failed miserably. Calvinists striking out is nothing new that's for sure.
BTW, none of this bloviating makes much sense if any. Its more like verbal pablum coming from an infant.
Why would you even ask such a question ?
What does it prove to anyone that you have to love someone you like ?
I'm not like that, I believe you can not force anyone to like to you, and you can't stop somebody liking somebody you don't like.
It's like this you fall in love only your wife's brother decides he doesn't like you, because he doesn't see his sister much anymore. Should I then tell my wife she should stop being nice to him because he doesn't like me, well no actually i have to help him, because he needs love. How i treat him will effect him more. When people need love and you don't help them, that's when people can grow bitter.
Now maybe your this person