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Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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video is unavailable probably a country thing, your probably better of finding another link
what's your views on this topic all tho is does take many different directions,
But One directions it takes for the argument in favour of free will in the unsaved, is they can choose to believe by themselves and have a nature that can grow faith on its own accord by there own will. What's your views on that
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Nah my salvation is assured with blessings. I went to High School, I don't get to say that was just free pencils and a recount on the scantrons. I know better than anyone saying "your baptism is suspect" because I was there and know fully well the reasons why I was confirmed WELS and why counting the cost of "going to worship" (feuerbend machen) is actually advisable and not harmful to my cause.
your talking about a public confession of faith I believe, but how did you come to believe,
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Allow me to give you a response. I was told as a little child that there are such a thing as Guardian Angels, and that I have one. When it stormed outside, nobody used the word "tronada" since that is considered to be broken Spanish. Instead my Dad told me when I was trembling, "the angels are at a bowling alley". So that was kind of tea and cookies as a preschooler. When I was in 3rd grade, my Mom started asking around who we could go to for my Baptismal vow, and after being handed my first Bible as a school kid, the WELS invited her to have me prepared for confirmation rites.
Does that help? I was in 5th grade, 2002. I felt so terrible about going to school until these wonderful people took over my education. My Bible had a little sheep on the bottom of the cover.
it's ok don't worry where friends, yep I believe all children are made to believe just like this, which changes the heart, I also believe it's his alive and active word that goes into the heart and grows belief
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Tex_MidwesternerNW
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Yeah I am all for you on that. Not a matter of having dignified legal discussions, more the toil and rest portions.
well that's the answer to my prayer whilst being drawn into legal discussions
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Tex_MidwesternerNW
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well that's the answer to my prayer whilst being drawn into legal discussions
I think that I'm not cut out to study Law.
It is rightly due Him.I wonder if the Lord wants to take the credit for you? Maybe He'll pass.
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Really, it's not my calling. I like painting and making drawings. That is very difficult work to perform, but as compared to Law you practically never go to "claims appeal" for day to day haggling and barter. Mostly just barter.
you mean the court appeal system is a joke i take it.
Yeah I can understand that.
It is that they consider that these directives do not apply to them because of their supposed sovereign pre-birth lottery immunity?
Luk 13:24
Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
Strive
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Ἀγωνίζεσθε ἀγωνίζομαι agōnizomai
Mood: Imperative
Definition of "Imperative"
Corresponds to the English imperative, and expresses a command to the hearer to perform a certain action by the order and authority of the one commanding. Thus, Jesus' phrase, "Repent ye, and believe the gospel" (Mk.1:15) is not at all an "invitation," but an absolute command requiring full obedience on the part of all hearers.
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A direct reference to the eating of the Passover Lamb IMO.
Something that NO ONE can do for you, you MUST do it YOURSELF.
[Jhn 6:53-56 KJV]
53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
Belief did not save us.
Belief revealed we wanted to be saved.
Belief is also an indicator of where we stand with God after we are saved.
The more *living* knowledge of the Word we seek, find, and have.
The more strength we will have in God through faith.
Why do you seem so grumpy and bitter towards happy Christians who do not believe like you do?
You are a very silly person....
You keep screwing up everything that is said, and begging that I take my time to correct you.
Which you would screw up as well.
You are a very silly person.
And, I do not believe you are really like you pretend to be.
Christ issues declarative COMMANDS that are non-negotiable. Make a list.
Those who exercise FAITH in His authority, BELIEVE Him and do what He says, are doing His will.
You hyper-Calvinists are living in a fantasy world. One that requires no personal belief, no personal faith, no personal seeking, no personal asking, no personal entering the Door.
There is no reason to think that the Scripture portrays God ENTERING the Door on behalf of the sinner (or acting as a proxy to fulfill any other Divine directive either).
Not only that, these Calvinist think that Christ is doing the ENTERING for them.....before they were ever born,
without them even being aware of it!
Jhn 10:9
I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.