Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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I am thankful he believes God and he knows no one can take that away from him.
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charity is free m. As is freedom of thought
The flesh is unfortunately free to do what it wants,.that's what many are not grasping m
As the will of man lives in the flesh,.which means it has to be controlled m
Sin corrupted the seed of Adam m which was flesh man's very nature m
Not quite right, please explain "Adam cursed himself" nowhere in the bible says that...
me to well perhaps you could recognise people can make you think what your writing is sinister then.
Everyone who is saved was humbled at the moment of their salvation.
They will remain saved from then on.
Later, after salvation...
God gives believers who remain humble what is called "post-salvation grace" = greater grace.
Arrogant believers he does not give "greater" grace to.
Greater grace is only given for the believer who will keep on maturing in grace and sound doctrine.
Greater grace is only for the believers who keep on maturing" is a common theological concept that while salvation is available to all by God's initial grace, an increased experience of God's power and blessing (sometimes called "greater grace" or "more grace") is contingent upon a believer's humility and intentional pursuit of spiritual growth. It is not a automatic right, but something received through a conscious, ongoing spiritual walk.
But be continuously growing in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
To him be glory both now and forever! Amen. 2 Peter 3:18
God must guide you to your right pastor-teacher.grace and peace....
If cows didn't pass gas as much as they did, the government wouldn't be compelled to accuse them of causing climate change, which was necessary for the heathens descent into the madness that would end the world.I wonder if Calvinists have been eternally decreed to pass gas at the exact moment they do?
It has really gotten to the point where it has become obvious that it is expecting too much for them to accept or even acknowledge what Scripture actually explicitly articulates. However, we press on... Because this is after all the Bible discussion forum.I know it's yuckerism,there definitely in the utterly buttery league, not knowing which side of the bread there buttered on
It would just be nice if they could actually confess anything we say.
It just seems to be a thread for who's got the best insult in there book .
The amount of truths they once haven't acknowledged is truly unbelievable.
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Believer08
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Do we choose to separate ourselves from God, or does God choose it for us? How can we evaluate anything to be true about free will if we do not have free will?
If there's no free will, then why do people write books for us to evaluate freely to determine if it's true?
If there's no free will, then why do people write books for us to evaluate freely to determine if it's true?
lol if the lord wills it so be itIt has really gotten to the point where it has become obvious that it is expecting too much for them to accept or even acknowledge what Scripture actually explicitly articulates. However, we press on... Because this is after all the Bible discussion forum.
Expressing on that is
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Believer08
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How did you think to ask this question about free will if you don’t have any to exercise it? How did anyone come to the conclusion that free will doesn’t exist, without first wondering if it does? But what leads one to think they don’t have it, without first rejecting it?
Well will you listen
When I say the will of the flesh lives in man which means that will of man will express it's self regardless when it's Hungary such as hunger pains, and Jesus says if the will of your right eye offends you,. Pluck it out.
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Believer08
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Saying we do not have free will is like saying you don’t know what a straight line looks like because you do not know what a crooked line looks like. In order to know what a straight line looks like, you’d first have to know what a straight line does not look like, which is to be crooked.
People making mundane choices does not in any way address what the Bible teaches about man's will being enslaved to sin, blinded to the truth, unable to hear, incapable of submitting to God, a lover of darkness, refusing to come into the light, hearing the gospel as foolishness, unable to receive or comprehend the spiritual things of God, to which he is opposed and to Whom he is hostile toward while under the power and influence of the devil, as is the whole world, out of which believers have been called. Thinking your will is free simply because you can choose what colour of socks to wear or what to have for lunch, or whether to do the right or wrong things, or what book to choose out of the mountains of them available, has no bearing on the eternal fate of your soul, and mixing those things in with what the Bible teaches about the estate of fallen man is a distraction from the real issue. I wonder that you are incapable of grasping this.
This is the crux of the conversation, such as it is, for it is out of man's nature that he makes choices, and it is with the heart that one believes... the free will proponents essentially assert that the incurably wicked heart of the natural/unregenerated man is free to choose to believe that which he is not only opposed to, but that which he can neither receive/accept nor comprehend while in the flesh as are all before becoming indwelt with the Holy Spirit of God. They have the man with zero wisdom acting wise to do God's will when Scripture says that man cannot, that flesh cannot please God, that flesh serves the law of sin and brings forth fruit unto death, not life. And their idea of wisdom is that person choosing to believe what they hear as foolishness. They reject what Jesus said about it being impossible for a bad tree to bring forth good fruit... there are none good, no, not one! Even when asked who can be saved, Jesus said that with man it was impossible, and there are other places where we are explicitly told it is not by the will of the flesh or man but by God's will that any are saved. Some philosophy books have said man has a will that is free and that is enough for some to throw over a slew of Scriptural truths.
I do not think what you write is sinister ... sometimes you're playful ... sometimes you're serious.
If you think what I write is sinister ... please show me the post you believe is sinister so I can know what you mean by "sinister" ... thanks.
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