Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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I am not the least bit surprised that you haven't the slightest Biblically valid grasp of the Jericho episode.

In fact I was expecting exactly that.
And I am ALWAYS expecting exactly that from team Calvin.....🥹☺️👏
Well I'm smart enough to know it wasn't evangelistic outreach. But you keep up the good work.

Oh, almost forgot, why didn't the evangelistic outreach program in Ai get the musical accompaniment that Jericho received?
 
And also the Grand Patriarch of the Jews! Even the Jews thought so! :rolleyes:

BTW, are you still working on that "favoritism" question I've been asking you for weeks now? Maybe you should check in with one your Piled High & Dry theology experts. Maybe they can help you. :rolleyes:

Abraham was a Gentile, who later became a Hebrew....

The progeny of Abraham, of Isaac, and Jacob, were to become the Jews.
 
Have I ever said differently! They chose according to their SELF-love sin nature? But what do you think about the other two groups in that parable?

So why didnt he ask the first group? Why did he just bring in number 2 and compel or force number 3?
 
I am not the least bit surprised that you haven't the slightest Biblically valid grasp of the Jericho episode.

In fact I was expecting exactly that.
And I am ALWAYS expecting exactly that from team Calvin.....🥹☺️👏
maybe you've forgot about this

Jericho still got destroyed

27Then Abraham answered, “Now that I have ventured to speak to the Lord—though I am but dust and ashes— 28suppose the fifty righteous ones lack five. Will You destroy the whole city for the lack of five?”

He replied, “If I find forty-five there, I will not destroy it.”

29Once again Abraham spoke to the LORD, “Suppose forty are found there?”

He answered, “On account of the forty, I will not do it.”

30Then Abraham said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak further. Suppose thirty are found there?”

He replied, “If I find thirty there, I will not do it.”

31And Abraham said, “Now that I have ventured to speak to the Lord, suppose twenty are found there?”

He answered, “On account of the twenty, I will not destroy it.”

32Finally, Abraham said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak once more. Suppose ten are found there?”

And He answered, “On account of the ten, I will not destroy it.”

33When the LORD had finished speaking with Abraham, He departed, and Abraham returned home.
 
Apparently, you have never read the Parable of the Banquet (Lk 14:15-24). I suppose the first group of people who were sincerely invited received phony, false invitations?

Jesus told that parable to Jews.
Jews who were the type who assumed that being a Jew meant they were saved, like the Pharisees.
 
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Abraham was a Gentile, who later became a Hebrew....

The progeny of Abraham, of Isaac, and Jacob, were to become the Jews.

So, my statement stands! Abraham is indeed THE patriarch of the Jews. Even Jesus included Abraham as being one of the living (along with the other two) which made him a child of God.
 
Jesus told that parable to Jews.
Jews who were the type who assumed that being a Jew meant they were saved, like the Pharisees.

Thank you for responding ... has been covered many times, but I notice when they hit a brick wall they circle back and try what has already failed multiple times but they like to pretend this is a fresh argument! :LOL:

Pretty funny sometimes.
 
Jesus told that parable to Jews.
Jews who were the type who assumed that being a Jew meant they were saved, like the Pharisees.

Actually, Jesus told all his parables to the Jews. :rolleyes: So, what is your point: that none of those "Jewish" parables apply to the New Covenant people of God today?

And what excuse do you offer for the other two groups in the Parable of the Banquet?
 
Thank you for responding ... has been covered many times, but I notice when they hit a brick wall they circle back and try what has already failed multiple times but they like to pretend this is a fresh argument! :LOL:

Pretty funny sometimes.
where the brick wall you keep hitting ..

Because where the stiff resistance 🤩
 
Thank you for responding ... has been covered many times, but I notice when they hit a brick wall they circle back and try what has already failed multiple times but they like to pretend this is a fresh argument! :LOL:

Pretty funny sometimes.
Scripture is thousands of years old so it's hardly fresh even as it renews us... but of course to you it's unrecognizable, and you just make it up as you go along... Really quite astounding how rather than accepting what Scripture says, you insert your own ideas and opinions to take the place of what is explicitly articulated in the Bible. Not that it makes any difference to you when you are told what it actually says, because you don't care what the Bible actually says when it messes with your vain self exalting philosophically based fantasy of free will.
 
Scripture is thousands of years old so it's hardly fresh even as it renews us... but of course to you it's unrecognizable, and you just make it up as you go along... Really quite astounding how rather than accepting what Scripture says, you insert your own ideas and opinions to take the place of what is explicitly articulated in the Bible. Not that it makes any difference to you when you are told what it actually says, because you don't care what the Bible actually says when it messes with your vain self exalting philosophically based fantasy of free will.
and to cap it all of,.even tho Gods word explicitly says the will of man lives in the flesh they won't even admit that to m 🤐
 
And so listen to the song again Mrs @reneweddaybyday are you going to take his beliefs away again.
no one can take away anyone's belief.

I never said Sting did not believe God. I said Sting was raised Catholic but no longer practices Catholocism.

I heard an interview in which Sting discussed "every breath you take" ... he said his intention was to write a song about love, but that the end result was somewhat sinister. those were his words ... not sure if that was before or after the interview where he said "his lyrics where inspired by God".

Anyway ... I hope you listen to the "whisper and the wind" ... which is a song about God and how God is with us through all our ups and downs ...

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Two things: First Judas was a Jew! So, when Jesus instituted the NC at the Supper, he did so with all Jews!

Secondly, I kinda doubt that Jesus made a covenant with one of the devil's own (Jn 6:70)! :rolleyes: Judas had it in his heart already to betray Christ and Jesus knew this. The 11 remained with Jesus at the supper table, but Judas separated himself from Jesus and the true disciples to perform his dastardly deed.
Judas was there ...

Luke 22:14-21

14 And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him.

15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:

16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.

17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:

18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.

19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

21 But, behold, the hand of him that betrayeth me is with me on the table.

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well I agree that maybe just maybe there could of been some who could have joined the Israel camp, but did they join out of there love for God or there fear of God, and where they filled with the holy spirit to ?
Rahab is the woman who hid the two spies ... Rahab is great-great-grandmother of David (Matt 1:5-6).

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no one can take away anyone's belief.

I never said Sting did not believe God. I said Sting was raised Catholic but no longer practices Catholocism.

I heard an interview in which Sting discussed "every breath you take" ... he said his intention was to write a song about love, but that the end result was somewhat sinister. those were his words ... not sure if that was before or after the interview where he said "his lyrics where inspired by God".

Anyway ... I hope you listen to the "whisper and the wind" ... which is a song about God and how God is with us through all our ups and downs ...

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Well not everyone always expresses everything in an interview,

Later on in life he did he realised his song he intended to write about love was Inspired by God.

I once use to race with someone who knew him personally,.and have you thought of the fact he may not have said what you think he was implying, and more like it was sinister to others.

Because he wrote a song saying people say I have lost my faith in the holy church
You don't know him m

And really m the internet is full of sinister people
 
maybe you've forgot about this

Jericho still got destroyed

27Then Abraham answered, “Now that I have ventured to speak to the Lord—though I am but dust and ashes— 28suppose the fifty righteous ones lack five. Will You destroy the whole city for the lack of five?”

He replied, “If I find forty-five there, I will not destroy it.”

29Once again Abraham spoke to the LORD, “Suppose forty are found there?”

He answered, “On account of the forty, I will not do it.”

30Then Abraham said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak further. Suppose thirty are found there?”

He replied, “If I find thirty there, I will not do it.”

31And Abraham said, “Now that I have ventured to speak to the Lord, suppose twenty are found there?”

He answered, “On account of the twenty, I will not destroy it.”

32Finally, Abraham said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak once more. Suppose ten are found there?”

And He answered, “On account of the ten, I will not destroy it.”

33When the LORD had finished speaking with Abraham, He departed, and Abraham returned home.
This was Sodom and Gomorrha ... the Jericho record is in Joshua.

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