I'm not the one who appeals to emotionalism everyday, its your imaginary empowered free will that does that.
I know better thanks
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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I know better thanks
My free will is going to take a break from all your noise.
On Ignore, until your medication kicks in.
well sir I don't need meds I have Gods will, that all i need, I dont need drugs meds booze, all that stuff, all that i have is enough for me,
Where as you sir want blood out of a stone.
Because you just can't accept totally depraved means exactly what it means, you cant get blood ( the life out of naturally wicked heart sir)
You can try which you have for ages, but the truth is sir your beating a dead horse
That's correct. Only in His humanity was He tempted. In His divinity, He was not. He could not sin.
1Co 2:8 - Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
Heb 4:15
†πειράω peiráō, pi-rah'-o; from G3984; to test (subjectively), i.e. (reflexively) to attempt:—assay.
to test, make trial of one, put him to the proof:
Disagree.
Jesus simply tabernacled with us in a sin soaked world, utterly imperturbable. Doing that which we cannot, demonstrating the proof of His infallible righteousness. And thereby demonstrating His qualification to be the Lamb.
The fact that He had flesh does not make Him "temptable".....His flesh must be and was also perfect, unfallen and perfectly holy.
Yet, His Deity which, prior to the Incarnation, gave him the power to be God in whatever He desired to do; was not operational in enabling his humanity. Thus... Leaving his humanity, to be humanity.
That is the catch.
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[Phl 2:7-8 KJV] 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
I don't see it that way. The only thing He emptied Himself of is His right to be glorified by literally everyone and everything all the time.....and by veiling Himself in flesh and not freaking everyone out with constant blazing refulgent glory. And of course dying when He never deserved it.
[Phl 2:7-8 KJV] 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
He was pioneering the spiritual way for how Christians should live.
Are we to become God, then? If He was being God in His power?
He depended upon the Father for all His guidance, and upon the Holy Spirit for his supernatural power and leading.
If He were in fact being manifested as God?
Why then should he have been baptized with the Holy Spirit?
Jesus received the baptism of the Holy Spirit as the Spirit descended upon Him in the form of a dove.
Isms implicitly recognize that souls are forced by the structure of reality to choose what to believe; humans are volitional beings, paradoxically forced to make free moral decisions. However, this choice or affirmation does not mean people determine or create truth.
The choice between cosmaterialism and moralism logically is the first fundamental choice in life (cf. Gen. 3:5). It can be thought of as a watershed decision that divides all people into two essentially different philosophical categories or world-views like a continental divide.
The second watershed decision flows immediately and implicitly from the moralist viewpoint (like major rivers from one side of the Divide)—choosing what (or who) to believe gives existence meaning and under-girds moral conscience.
As one analyzes the variety of moralistic beliefs, there seem to be four main viewpoints:
1. the ground of meaning/morality is human power (humanism, cf. Gen. 11:4),
2. there is a natural moral law or karma in the universe (karmaism, cf. Gal. 6:7),
3. humans naturally have an instinct or proclivity toward morality (naturalism, cf. Rom. 2:14), or
4. a supernatural Supreme Being exists, who has a moral will for humanity, with which humans
may cooperate or not (monotheism per Gen. 17:1).
Human will is assigned to flesh we where saved not by our own choice or fleshly will but but by our hope to God do we become saved.
John
12 But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to those who believe in His name,
13 who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us
Life Through the Spirit
8 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you[a] free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh,[b] God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering.[c] And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
5 Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. 6 The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. 7 The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. 8 Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God.
9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. 10 But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life[d] because of righteousness. 11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of[e] his Spirit who lives in you.
12 Therefore, brothers and sisters, we have an obligation—but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. 13 For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live.
14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. 15 The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship.[f] And by him we cry, “Abba,[g] Father.” 16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. 17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.
Present Suffering and Future Glory
18 I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. 19 For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. 20 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21 that[h] the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God.
22 We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. 23 Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies. 24 For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what they already have? 25 But if we hope for what we do not yet have, we wait for it patiently.
26 In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans. 27 And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for God’s people in accordance with the will of God.
See the part where told it was not by by choice we are saved but by his will and hope.
John
12 But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to those who believe in His name,
13 who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us
Life Through the Spirit
8 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you[a] free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh,[b] God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering.[c] And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
5 Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. 6 The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. 7 The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. 8 Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God.
9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. 10 But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life[d] because of righteousness. 11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of[e] his Spirit who lives in you.
12 Therefore, brothers and sisters, we have an obligation—but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. 13 For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live.
14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. 15 The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship.[f] And by him we cry, “Abba,[g] Father.” 16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. 17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.
Present Suffering and Future Glory
18 I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. 19 For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. 20 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21 that[h] the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God.
22 We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. 23 Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies. 24 For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what they already have? 25 But if we hope for what we do not yet have, we wait for it patiently.
26 In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans. 27 And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for God’s people in accordance with the will of God.
See the part where told it was not by by choice we are saved but by his will and hope.
back to imagining children of God are queers again,
Should this be how it is after you receive sound doctrine you decide to put us on ignore and call us queers.
Utterly disgraceful sir
Sorry but where did Genez even mention queers, let alone say that he imagined that God's children are queers? If searched back over 5 pges of messages on this thread, and as far as I can see, you are the only person to even mention queers.
@DavidLamb you should not go excusing other peoples behaviour.
Here to david hes is calling Cameron a queer and there are other places to which I can't be bothered too find David,
one in particular said Cameron's understanding of of God was like listening to queers.
So if he's not cutting children of God of from the lord he's calling them queers.
It's what people who deprave themselves do, they then deprave other children of God
here he calling Cameron a queer
Here to david hes is calling Cameron a queer and there are other places to which I can't be bothered too find David,
one in particular said Cameron's understanding of of God was like listening to queers.
So if he's not cutting children of God of from the lord he's calling them queers.
It's what people who deprave themselves do, they then deprave other children of God
Sorry, I assure you I wasn't trying to excuse anybody's behaviour. I did a search for the word "queer" on several pages of this thread, and only found it in your posts. that is why I didn't see "sweetheart." I don't understand the roller skates reference. Surely not only queers wear roller skates. If Genez was really implying that someone is a queer, I expect that would be against forum rules. I will leave that to the moderators.
I apologise for any confusion caused.
well they don't always come up when you do one word searches, I can assure you genez said in a post to Cameron your like listening to queers.
Since then hes been calling him sweet heart and telling him to put his roller skates.
Hes a hater sir