Blasphemy against holyspirit
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As a teenager, I personally knew two redeemed people who repudiated their saving faith:
the daughter of a missionary and my HS English teacher, although he preferred to be called
an agnostic rather than an atheist.
Only two NT redeemed people who committed blasphemy are named
(although Paul indicated there were some others): Hymenaeus and Alexander.
(1TM 1:19-20, cf. 2TM 4:14)
the daughter of a missionary and my HS English teacher, although he preferred to be called
an agnostic rather than an atheist.
Only two NT redeemed people who committed blasphemy are named
(although Paul indicated there were some others): Hymenaeus and Alexander.
(1TM 1:19-20, cf. 2TM 4:14)
I haven't blaspemed the holy spirit but I have cursed God in anger I was under some very heavy spiritual warfare didn't handle it well and was unstable mentally and emotionally I repented later but to be honest it wasn't the holy spirit I was mad at it was God for letting me go through all that suffering by myself.
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It's more than that. It is when good is called evil and evil is called good. It is unforgivable because the person who considers such a thing to be true, is beyond reasoning. They can no longer see their need to be forgiven.
In the passage you quote, Jesus had just freed someone from demonic possession, a terrible situation to be in and the Pharisees attributed Jesus' good work to the Devil. They were the ones who were truly blind.
In the passage you quote, Jesus had just freed someone from demonic possession, a terrible situation to be in and the Pharisees attributed Jesus' good work to the Devil. They were the ones who were truly blind.
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I personally do not believe it is possible for a Christian (in the true sense of the word, one in Christ) to blaspheme the Holy Spirit. The Spirit Himself prevents such a thing from happening as he/she has already been forgiven and (positionally) is no longer under condemnation. While a Christian may grieve and even quench the work of the Spirit by walking after the flesh, I do not see the Lord rescinding the forgiveness He has already extended. Instead, such a one, simply doesn't experience the peace etc that comes from such forgiveness in their lives.
Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
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If apostasy/blasphemy is impossible, then God wasted a lot of ink inspiring:
MT 10:22, “All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.”
RM 11:22, “Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.”
1CR 15:2, “By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.”
GL 5:4, “You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.”
CL 1:22-23, “But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation—if you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the gospel.”
2THS 1:4-5, “Therefore, among God’s churches we boast about your perseverance and faith in all the persecutions and trials you are enduring. All this is evidence that God’s judgment is right, and as a result you will be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are suffering.”
2TM 2:12, “If we endure, we will also reign with him. If we disown him, he will also disown us;”
HB 3:6&14, “But Christ is faithful as a son over God’s house. And we are his house, if we hold on to our courage and the hope of which we boast… We have come to share in Christ if we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had at first.”
HB 6:4-6, “It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.”
HB 10:26-36, “If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God… So do not throw away your confidence; it will be richly rewarded. You need to persevere so that when you have done the will of God, you will receive what he has promised.”
JM 1:12, “Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him.”
2PT 1:10-11, “Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and election sure. For if you do these things, you will never fall, and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.”
2PT 2:20, “If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning.”
1JN 2:24-25, “See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. And this is what he promised us—even eternal life.”
JUDE 21, “Keep yourselves in God’s love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life.”
RV 2:10, “Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the crown of life.”
MT 10:22, “All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.”
RM 11:22, “Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.”
1CR 15:2, “By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.”
GL 5:4, “You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.”
CL 1:22-23, “But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation—if you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the gospel.”
2THS 1:4-5, “Therefore, among God’s churches we boast about your perseverance and faith in all the persecutions and trials you are enduring. All this is evidence that God’s judgment is right, and as a result you will be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are suffering.”
2TM 2:12, “If we endure, we will also reign with him. If we disown him, he will also disown us;”
HB 3:6&14, “But Christ is faithful as a son over God’s house. And we are his house, if we hold on to our courage and the hope of which we boast… We have come to share in Christ if we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had at first.”
HB 6:4-6, “It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.”
HB 10:26-36, “If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God… So do not throw away your confidence; it will be richly rewarded. You need to persevere so that when you have done the will of God, you will receive what he has promised.”
JM 1:12, “Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him.”
2PT 1:10-11, “Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and election sure. For if you do these things, you will never fall, and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.”
2PT 2:20, “If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning.”
1JN 2:24-25, “See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. And this is what he promised us—even eternal life.”
JUDE 21, “Keep yourselves in God’s love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life.”
RV 2:10, “Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the crown of life.”
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Thanks bro. Let me add to that.
who summarized the “once saved, always saved” teaching infers or presumes that somehow:
Be careful so that you dont fall away from the faith you dont even have! Careful now. Be careful you dont fall into false doctrine even though you're not saved! Remain steadfast in the faith you dont have, since you havent even believed make sure you havent believed in vain by any chance. Make sure you dont the flavor in you as salt, that you never had to begin with.
who summarized the “once saved, always saved” teaching infers or presumes that somehow:
- No virgin’s lamp can go out…(Matthew 25:8)
- No promising harvest can be choked with thorns…(Matthew 13:7)
- No branch in Christ can ever be cut off for not abiding…(John 15:6)
- No forgiveness can ever be forfeited… (Matthew 18:32)
- No name can be blotted out of God’s book…(Revelation 3:5; Exodus 32:33)
- No salt can ever lose its flavor…(Matthew 5:13)
- “Receive the grace of God in vain”… (2 Corinthians 6:1)
- “Bury [their] talents”…(Matthew 25:18)
- “Neglect such great salvation”… (Hebrews 2:3)
- “Look back” after putting [their] hand to the plow… (Luke 9:62)
- Nor “deny the Lord that bought them” and “brings upon themselves swift destruction” (2 Peter 2:1)
- Nobody, or body of believers, can ever get so lukewarm that Jesus will spew them out of His mouth… (Revelation 3:16)
- If you are lost, you were never found (John 17:12)
- If one falls, he was never standing (Romans 11:16-22; Hebrews 6:4-6)
- If one was ever “cast forth,” he was never in, and “if one ever withered,” he was never attached to the vine and once green (John 15:1-6)
- “If any man draws back,” proves that he never had anything to draw back from (Hebrews 10:38,39)
- If one ever “falls away into spiritual darkness,” he was never enlightened (Hebrews 6:4-6)
- If you “again get entangled in the pollution of the world,” it shows that you never escaped (2 Peter 2:20)
- If you “put salvation away” you never truly had it (Hebrews 10:35; Psalms 51:11)
- If you make a shipwreck of your faith, there was no ship of faith there, to begin with!! (1 Timothy 1:19)
Be careful so that you dont fall away from the faith you dont even have! Careful now. Be careful you dont fall into false doctrine even though you're not saved! Remain steadfast in the faith you dont have, since you havent even believed make sure you havent believed in vain by any chance. Make sure you dont the flavor in you as salt, that you never had to begin with.
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Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is more than simply disagreeing with or being angry at or ignoring God. It is an attitude of heart so perverted in it's understanding of reality that it is absolutely upside down and cannot be reverted. People who blaspheme the Holy Spirit are not saved and have never been saved and never will be saved.
The verses you quote are not about that condition.
The verses you quote are not about that condition.
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And once again I state, blasphemy of the Holy Spirit has nothing to do with falling from grace, or being unfaithful. The Pharisees who accused Jesus and who were held out as an example, were not saved.
It is a mindset that has outright rejected God from the get go in order for it to get to the total depraved state it is in. It is a mindset that sees the right as wrong, the good as evil. It is not simply the mindset of a believer who has wandered from the way.
It is a mindset that has outright rejected God from the get go in order for it to get to the total depraved state it is in. It is a mindset that sees the right as wrong, the good as evil. It is not simply the mindset of a believer who has wandered from the way.
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