Ball Earth conundrums

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GaryA

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I am honest enough to admit when I have made a mistake. I will now reconsider my stance on this particular conundrum.
 

Dino246

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No - I was suggesting that you needed to provide evidence against my statement. However, since I just found it myself - don't worry about it... :)
Your original post of the alleged conundrum provided the evidence. In other words, it was self-refuting. ;)
 

Gideon300

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Whatever thread that was in - please quote it and post it in that thread and "mention" me in that post. Thanks.
From memory, it was addressed to Moses. I'm 72, life is too short to waste time on this subject. My only aim is to help the undecided, not to change the minds of the deluded.
 

Gideon300

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Why do you believe reflecting radar off the ionosphere would be unnecessary? You do know the atmosphere is thicker closer to the ground, right? So reflecting radar waves off the firmament over longer distances would allow increased range, due to reduced atmospheric interference?
You obviously know little about radar. Atmospherics do affect radar, but there are ways to compensate for it. Heavy rain does affect radar, as I find when driving my car. The radar sometimes is rendered useless. However, It's not always raining at sea. We had radar in the 70's that could pick up a beer can floating in the sea.

Sea skimming missiles use the curvature of the earth to defeat radar. That's why airborne surveillance is a must.
 

Romans34

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TWO HUNDRED proofs the earth is not a ball.

200.

Each of which, alone, prove the earth is not what science says it is.

https://www.bitchute.com/search/?query=eric dubay 200 proofs&kind=video
Technically there are not 200 (for example there are a number of which are all about lighthouses -- one argument really), and some arguements by themselves don't prove it, but all together the evidence is overwhelming that modern so-called science about the earth is not the reality.
 

kinda

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Eric Dubay and David Weiss are the two leaders in the flat earth movement. Eric is more of the cult leader and David is more of the fumbling educator.

To be fair, I think it would be foolish to totally dismiss both, but to look at each point they make individually, and critique it. Just as a rough estimate maybe 50% good info, and 50% bad. The bad will probably get them discredited, but they do make a good point once in awhile is what I'm getting at.

 

GaryA

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What is ironic is that you said this when/while you believe in a hollow earth.
I find it very odd that you do not seem to realize that - as much as the average person thinks FE is out in left field somewhere - the same is true about HE on a few orders of magnitude.

I am quite sure that the absolute majority of folks would consider FE as a reality looooong before they would consider HE as a reality.
 

Cameron143

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Hollow earth is full of hot air, flat earth simply lacks depth and ball earth merely rounds out the choices. Anyone else got any other ideas? Tin foil available upon request.
 

kinda

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What is ironic is that you said this when/while you believe in a hollow earth.

How so?

You have never even attempted to discredit concave hollow earth. All of sudden, you seem so sure of yourself.

I must of missed that part, where you actually backed up what you believed. Your two dimensional earth belief will be hard to live down Gary, so I would encourage you to admit you know nothing about the shape of the earth, and apologize to every one that has tried to help you, as well as your gang of misfits, who believe in a flat earth.

You can always continue on in your delusion, but at least I tried to help you.
 

kinda

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Hollow earth is full of hot air, flat earth simply lacks depth and ball earth merely rounds out the choices. Anyone else got any other ideas? Tin foil available upon request.

Ball earth has the most financial backing and gives many answers to questions, although some are completely misguided. We all owe a ton of gratitude for the scientists who have worked hard to get where we are today, even though there is a ton of bad science out there as well.

Flat earth is a platform of doubt, that is really only right on some points, that disprove ball earth, but has totally failed to prove that flat earth is even possible. Not even a working model of the sun and moon for flat earthers to point to. It's really a place for the uneducated. I already posted a link that supports flat earthers have low knowledge in the science fields.

Concave Hollow Earth is the most ignored, but is the best answer. It has it's own models, proofs, and can withstand tests of stars, ships, planes, seasons, and etc.

I know when this debate ends, but it won't end soon. The mystery will be solved in time.
 

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It’s pretty hard to believe that people believe in FE. Why not just call an airline company and ask them about geodesic? Or even easier, go visit Flightradar24 or gisgeography.com.
 

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Hollow earth is full of hot air, flat earth simply lacks depth and ball earth merely rounds out the choices. Anyone else got any other ideas? Tin foil available upon request.
Tin foil is great for reheating left over pizza planet slices in the solar pizza oven.
 

GaryA

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From memory, it was addressed to Moses. I'm 72, life is too short to waste time on this subject. My only aim is to help the undecided, not to change the minds of the deluded.
Fair enough - I understand.

(Of course, from my perspective, it is the Ball Earth folks who are [unknowingly] deluded. Nonetheless, I understand.)

:coffee:
 

Cameron143

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Ball earth has the most financial backing and gives many answers to questions, although some are completely misguided. We all owe a ton of gratitude for the scientists who have worked hard to get where we are today, even though there is a ton of bad science out there as well.

Flat earth is a platform of doubt, that is really only right on some points, that disprove ball earth, but has totally failed to prove that flat earth is even possible. Not even a working model of the sun and moon for flat earthers to point to. It's really a place for the uneducated. I already posted a link that supports flat earthers have low knowledge in the science fields.

Concave Hollow Earth is the most ignored, but is the best answer. It has it's own models, proofs, and can withstand tests of stars, ships, planes, seasons, and etc.

I know when this debate ends, but it won't end soon. The mystery will be solved in time.
As you know, I don't really have a theory in this conundrum. I'm here collecting tin foil.
 

kinda

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It’s pretty hard to believe that people believe in FE. Why not just call an airline company and ask them about geodesic? Or even easier, go visit Flightradar24 or gisgeography.com.
I agree, but there are people who believe in little green/gray space goblins. They have never seen them, there is no evidence of them, and yet, people still believe in them. People are gonna believe what ever they want, but if they post it in a chatroom it's up for discussion.

Can you explain how geodesic proves flat earth wrong? Also, how does Flightradar24 and gisgeography help the flat earth wrong? Can you enlighten us Susanna? I ask in honesty, not trying to set you up for a debate, or anything like that. Just curious.