Another Salvation Thread: Sin and Salvation

[HeIsHere]

It’s obvious that you’re very confused about what Jesus says NOT to do but you might think it’s okay to do it because some other men before you cherry picked the Bible

I said nothing of the sort, again you lie.

 

[Eli1]

Amen.

People who go on about sin are really telling us they have a problem with Grace.

This whole existence is an act of grace from God.
He’s trying to guide your moral compass with His words because you’re created in His image with (limited) free will.
You’re not a zombie.

 

[Cameron143]

I gave the answer.... if I don't do any of those thing I don't sin. Now do you have the courage to answer the same question, honestly... without exercising your doctrine of being able to be dishonest till your last breath and still be saved?

There are many more sins than those you listed. For example, Philippians 2:3 says we are to esteem others better than ourselves. Do you always esteem others better than yourself?

 

[Eli1]

I said nothing of the sort, again you lie.

Far from it.
I showed you a contradiction and then you speak cluelessly about milk and honey and steak.

 

[HeIsHere]

Far from it.
I showed you a contradiction and then you speak cluelessly about milk and honey and steak.

More lies.

 

[Eli1]

More lies.

You’re as clear as mud.
Learn from Gideon.
He’s as clear as a crystal.

 

[soulprobe]

Look: We Christians all sin: we try no to, but we do! We're only human! But JESUS died on The Cross, and ROSE AGAIN, to forgive us for our sins: past, present, and future!

Not all Christians continue to sin and they should not be taught that it's OK to do so. The teaching of not to sin and to overcome sin is all through the bible. If a Christian falls and sins can they be forgiven? Of course.... if they repent and do what Christ commanded the harlot after He forgave her: "Go and sin no more". He didn't say "I forgive you.... Now go and you can keep sinning and be a harlot till your last breath because I will be tortured to death on the cross to give you the privilege of everlasting sin."

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

There are many more sins than those you listed. For example, Philippians 2:3 says we are to esteem others better than ourselves. Do you always esteem others better than yourself?

Not esteeming others better than ourselves is not sin, but esteeming ourselves better than others is a snare. As they say, pride comes before a fall. Therefore, it is wise to develop the habit of esteeming others better than ourselves.

 

[OLDBUTNEW]

Not all Christians continue to sin and they should not be taught that it's OK to do so. The teaching of not to sin and to overcome sin is all through the bible. If a Christian falls and sins can they be forgiven? Of course.... if they repent and do what Christ commanded the harlot after He forgave her: "Go and sin no more". He didn't say "I forgive you.... Now go and you can keep sinning and be a harlot till your last breath because I will be tortured to death on the cross to give you the privilege of everlasting sin."

@soulprobe : Yes, good points you've made here, Bro.

 

[soulprobe]

There are many more sins than those you listed. For example, Philippians 2:3 says we are to esteem others better than ourselves. Do you always esteem others better than yourself?

All your doing is avoiding answering my question.... I answered your question very clearly... now it's time for you to do unto others what you ask others to do for you and answer the question.

 

[Cameron143]

All your doing is avoiding answering my question.... I answered your question very clearly... now it's time for you to do unto others what you ask others to do for you and answer the question.

By demanding that I answer has you esteeming yourself more than me. I guess your sin record is broken. You can start again.

Of course I still sin. If we didn't still sin, Jesus wouldn't have instructed us to to ask forgiveness when He taught us to pray.

 

[Cameron143]

Not esteeming others better than ourselves is not sin, but esteeming ourselves better than others is a snare. As they say, pride comes before a fall. Therefore, it is wise to develop the habit of esteeming others better than ourselves.

It's a command, not a suggestion.

 

[soulprobe]

By demanding that I answer has you esteeming yourself more than me. I guess your sin record is broken. You can start again.

Of course I still sin. If we didn't still sin, Jesus wouldn't have instructed us to to ask forgiveness when He taught us to pray.

It's the opposite: By me answering your question and then you refusing to answer the same question you asked me is you "esteeming yourself more than me". But as an admitted practicing sinner, it is of no surprise. You also esteem all Christians to be the same or less than you by saying, "If we didn't still sin". If you esteemed others better than yourself you would say, "If I didn't still sin" and not arrogantly speak for all Christians. It is clear... your doctrine of being able to freely sin till your last breath and still be saved is producing its fruit.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

It's a command, not a suggestion.

It's instruction on godly living.

 

[Cameron143]

It's the opposite: By me answering your question and then you refusing to answer the same question you asked me is you "esteeming yourself more than me". But as an admitted practicing sinner, it is of no surprise. You also esteem all Christians to be the same or less than you by saying, "If we didn't still sin". If you esteemed others better than yourself you would say, "If I didn't still sin" and not arrogantly speak for all Christians. It is clear... your doctrine of being able to freely sin till your last breath and still be saved is producing its fruit.

I was just making a point. You obviously esteemed yourself more highly than me. Now, you chose to defend yourself rather than allow the Lord to plead your case.

Have you taken all your thoughts captive today unto obedience to Jesus Christ? Have you done everything in faith? Have you done everything to the glory of God? Did you love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength? Not one idol thought? Not one careless word? Not one time you could have done good, but didn't do it?

 

[Cameron143]

It's instruction on godly living.

If someone doesn't esteem another better than themselves, are they loving their neighbor as themselves?

 

[Cameron143]

It's the opposite: By me answering your question and then you refusing to answer the same question you asked me is you "esteeming yourself more than me". But as an admitted practicing sinner, it is of no surprise. You also esteem all Christians to be the same or less than you by saying, "If we didn't still sin". If you esteemed others better than yourself you would say, "If I didn't still sin" and not arrogantly speak for all Christians. It is clear... your doctrine of being able to freely sin till your last breath and still be saved is producing its fruit.

BTW...acknowledging sin isn't the same as countenancing sin. Again, if we don't sin, why did Jesus instruct us to ask forgiveness for our sins when He taught us to pray?

 

[soulprobe]

BTW...acknowledging sin isn't the same as countenancing sin. Again, if we don't sin, why did Jesus instruct us to ask forgiveness for our sins when He taught us to pray?

Again.... the "we". Show some courage and speak for yourself. There is a segment of that "we" who have overcome sin and with God's help it will stay that way till their last breath. Jesus instructed you to ask for forgiveness and then "go and sin no more". He didn't instruct you to ask for forgiveness and then go and keep sinning and teach others that they can keep sinning till their last breath and still be saved.

 

[Cameron143]

Again.... the "we". Show some courage and speak for yourself. There is a segment of the "we" who have overcome sin and with God's help it will stay that way till their last breath. Jesus instructed you to ask for for forgiveness and then "go and sin no more". He didn't instruct you to ask for forgiveness and then go and keep sinning and teach others that they can keep sinning till their last breath and still be saved.

OK.
Grace and peace.

 

[Gideon300]

God likely forgave David because he had made a covenant with him that his seed, the messiah, would rule Israel forever. Him forgiving David and bringing the messiah through his adulterous wife is really a statement of God's faithfulness and grace.

Every born again believer has a vastly superior covenant with God. The Law came through Moses; grace and truth through Jesus.