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This is all very nice, but ... what do we do with those verses which say God gives FAITH to some people?

The “born again” experience is being baptized into Christ’s church by the Holy Spirit … "For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body (the church) ... and have all been made to drink into one Spirit.” (1 Corinthians 12:13) In this experience, the Holy Spirit comes INSIDE the believer …...

I am sure that after discovering the Lord’s secret … you will love Him more, worship Him more, praise Him more, and thank Him more … both now and forever! First, perhaps we should review some basic fundamental Truths … The deplorable condition of the human race Our whole Christian experience...

Yes, Romans 9 seems to say ... God chooses some for salvation and some for hell.

You are correct. God chooses people for all kinds of reasons. Some are chosen for salvation, some for different ministries, etc.

YES! ... Several NT verses reveal that ... God GIVES FAITH to whomever He chooses. These verses are posted in other related threads.

Father God’s satisfaction IMO, Father God would have been satisfied IF a sinless human sacrificed him/her self to take away the sins of the human race! However, no one was qualified … so, because of His great love for the human race (which He created), He came to earth and took the form of a...

Then you need to read Romans to begin with. I'd be happy to send you a NT.

Check this out ... The pastor of pastors in San Diego about 10 years ago said this verse refers to choosing church leaders, i.e. the 5-fold ministry of Ephesians 4:11.

Almighty God sees everything ... from the beginning to the end. Perhaps, His election depends to some degree on peoples' choices. One thing in Scripture: His election is to bring great praise and glory to Him. I.E. the saving of some shows His great love, mercy, and grace. All the others receive...

I have posted the NT verses showing God gives FAITH to those He chooses ("I will bless whomever I wish and I will curse whomever I wish", etc.). Jesus says Father God must DRAW (compel, drag) people to Him, and these people He will accept. "No one can (is able to) come to Me unless the Father...

NT verses are available for all of these disastrous conditions: Inherited sin nature ...... Spiritual mortal enemy, Satan Sin nature against God .... Satan’s army against him Enemy of God .............. Under Satan’s power & control Spiritually blind ......... Satan robs initial...

Of course everyone needs God's initial grace to be able to be saved and go to heaven. This is a fundamental and foundational Truth. Butski, how is this to be accomplished? No additional grace is required, if people choose to believe in the Gospel. But, additional grace is required ... because...

The Best Election-Faith Verses Acts 3:16 NKJV ------- “Yes, the FAITH which comes through Him …” LB ---------- “FAITH in Jesus’ name — FAITH given to us from God …” Acts 13:48 KJV ------------------- “… as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.” NLT ------------------- “… all who were...

Yes, for example ... Not every passage about the baptism with the Holy Spirit (most of these are in Acts) mentions tongues, which is the confirmation that a person has received this baptism of power and anointing ... administered by Jesus Himself. (This is totally different than the born-again...

The context has nothing to do with faith and belief. This spiritual power is for living the Christian life, being an overcomer, evangelizing, etc.

Thou art the one who is simple! FAITH is given to enable one to BELIEVE what is HEARD. 'Cause w/o it, one iz just NOT able.

Latest verse discovered re: God gives faith to believe: Acts 3:16 NKJV ------- “Yes, the faith which comes through Him has given him this perfect soundness …” LB ---------- “Faith in Jesus’ name — faith given us from God — has caused this perfect healing.”

Would you care to show how election (including Gentiles) in Romans 9 has been taken out of context by me?

"the originators of this doctrine" are none other than God's people who wrote the NT verses!