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Haven’t ever look at it that way but I guess it works. Geometry wasnt my best subject. 😂

Base verb is: τηρέω (tēréō) Meaning: to keep to guard to observe to hold fast John 14:15 τηρήσετε = future active indicative, 2nd person plural → “you (plural) will keep” John 14:23 τηρήσει = future active indicative, 3rd person singular → “he will keep”

John 14:15 John 14:23

Same word used in verse 15 as verse 23. Only difference is one is second person plural and one is third person singular. Both uses are future active indicative. You also have to look at v21. The “must do” is love Him. Following His commandments is a result of the “must do”.

I define legalistic as obeying rules out of obligation or fear without heart or love behind it. I agree that God is sovereign and His commands are absolute but Jesus’ point is that obedience is meant to flow from love and connection not just duty. When obedience comes from love it isn’t a burden...

The word “duty” usually implies obligation or compulsion, which is why it can sound legalistic. In 1 John 2:6, the focus is on love and connection with Christ, so obedience flows naturally rather than being a forced requirement. If it doesn’t come naturally from love and relationship with Him...

Jesus is also pointing out that plants don’t work, their life and growth come from God.

1 John 2:6 isn’t about legalistic duty. John is warning against hypocrisy. If we truly live in Christ, our lives will naturally reflect His example. Obedience flows from our connection to Him and love for the Father, not from just checking off rules.

I think “obligated” misses the heart of it. Jesus didn’t obey out of duty, but out of love and connection with the Father. Following Him isn’t about legalistic effort, it’s about staying rooted in Him so His life naturally flows through us.

I do see the reason you MUST have gotten banned before. Have a nice day.

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Does it please you when someone does something for you only so they get something in return? Feels hollow to me when that happens.

So there’s not a list of rules that we must follow? Or a set number of how many rules we can break before “else” happens?

If we must follow His commandments or else, which commandments must we follow and how many can we not obey before the “else” happens?

I’m not offended at all but I am a little confused now. You said we must follow His commandments but you lied. now you’re saying He’s not going to do anything to you. So your logic is we don’t have to follow the one about not lying but we must follow the rest?

Technically that’s not true. You could bike to improve your stamina. You could also follow God’s commandments for self-benefit or to impress others instead of out of love. The whole point of the analogy is that keeping His commandments comes naturally from loving Him. Same with my wife. Me doing...

You think one that says we must follow His commandments to be saved wouldn’t falsely accuse people aka LIE. Are you still saved after you lied about me?

Still not what it says. Let me give you a couple analogies because because I know you love analogies 😂 If you trust someone, you will act loyally toward them. Loyalty is the natural outcome of trust, not a forced rule. If you run regularly, your stamina will improve. Improvement follows...

Definitely never read that verse in scripture. Here’s the literal verse in English since you don’t like Greek. ““If you love me, you will keep my commandments.” ‭‭John‬ ‭14‬:‭15‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Maybe you should look up the word “tērēsete” and see what it means. John 14:15 implies that keeping His commandments is a result of loving Him.