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Agreed about the great tribulation and the pre-trib gathering of the church. I believe that once people on earth realize it, there will be a "sensible" answer. Maybe AI? Maybe there will be a vaccine available to keep people from disappearing.:p

I'm hearing what you are saying, but is there evidence of these statements in scripture?

First, equating what Jesus states in Matthew 24 and 25 concerning Israel to what Paul refers to as the gathering of the church. They are not the same. The elect in Matthew 24 is Israel, not the body of Christ.

Another thread of failing to rightly divide the word of truth and separating the Church from the nation of Israel.

Were the Corinthians in which Paul called carnal, were they saved?

Because the carnal mind says, "I can handle it."

Turning water into wine is a picture of the OT example of Moses turning water into blood. The picture is sin. It goes back to the fall of man in the garden, but that's a long discussion (the blood of the grape).

Better off without alcohol? Always, because man is evil. Man will always abuse it.

I got the statistics from a Driver Education teacher friend. And because of alcohol, we employ a lot more cops.:D Would we be better off as a society if alcohol were eliminated? Yes or no?

We'd be better off without alcohol. Period. Does the following sound like a good time? •83% of all fire deaths are alcohol related •68% of all drowning is alcohol related •80% of all suicides are alcohol related •40% of all industrial accidents are alcohol related •86% of all murders are...

I am reminded of the feast of Jacob’s desire to marry Rachael after serving seven years, but instead lay with Leah that night and was married to her, not Rachael.

Biblically, in the eyes of God, you are married once two become one flesh. There's nothing magically occurs when you say vows in front of a pastor. You should make your declaration of marriage known before others if you are seeking to appease family and church.

Yet another thread failing to rightly divide the word of truth. When will it stop. :)

My post showed how the Lord gave Paul additional revelation that had never been taught before. It's not a contradiction, just more revelation to a particular group of people. It's called progressive revelation.

The church should preach the gospel to the congregation? Is not the congregation the church, the body of Christ?

Didn't Jesus tell his disciples not to go to the Gentiles nor the Samaritans? Why? Did that go against what was given to Paul being the apostle to the Gentiles?

Yes, see 330

I asked why are they coming? Let them come, but the overall message should be for equipping believers.

Not a mountain, just a discussion. I’m not against a short gospel call at the end of a service.

Boy, where did that come from?