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Not according to the passage, in my opinion.

In other words...I don't understand the passage? I thought you didn't use unbiblical phrases? Can you show me selection from scripture? The way God chooses has everything to do with election. I agree it is for His people.

I wonder why the "don't understand" crowd didn't rush to my defense?

I do like the nuance though, and agree with it. God did create Israel. And God does recreate those He saves.

You can't say I don't understand. That's against the rules. I guess you have to say nuance and it magically becomes ok.

Read the passage. God says He chose Israel.

I explained the passage. Not really much to explain. It's very straightforward. You just don't like the implications of it.

Again, nothing to do with the verses in question while misrepresenting other's positions. You guys seem unable or unwilling to work through a passage of scripture. Appreciate the discussion. Grace and peace.

I'm not. I'm establishing a pattern for how God chooses. Whether He is chooing an individual or a nation is immaterial.

It was already posted.

No thanks.

Jesus is said to be tempted in all points, like we are...Hebrews 4:15. If temptation was sinful, Jesus must have sinned. Since this is clearly not so, temptation itself is not a sin. Acting on a temptation is sin.

Running away, while shouting back.

As the Black Knight said...running away, are ya? Why can't you simply deal with scripture?

Going off point again. What does the scripture say concerning why God chose Israel?

The passage actually says that God chose Israel out of all the nations on earth to be His prized possession. This alone establishes the questions concerning nations pertinent.

Please stay on topic. God chose Israel. We have a point of agreement. In the same passage in Deuteronomy 7, God gives the reason He chose them. What is the reason given?

So start a thread and let's hash it out.

Wait...wouldn't that mean God chose Israel, but not other nations?

Going off point again. Did God choose Israel? Did He choose Israel because of anything that was true of them? Did He choose them because He wanted to manifest His love to them? Did God force Israel to be His people?