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The only ones who bring up TULIP are the ones who say they don't believe it. Yet somehow, they enjoy using extra biblical terminology for doctrines where biblical language is available. Odd.

It was a joke. Only God is qualified to judge what is true of the human heart. We are called to make temporal judgments, but we aren't called to make eternal judgments. My temporal discernment regarding you isn't off. You aren't seeking my wellbeing.

Easy big feller. It was a joke.

You are clever, but devious. I have made no statement about anyone's estate concerning salvation. I haven't even hinted at it. Your true self and motives become more apparent with each post.

If it be hid, it is hid to those that are lost. At least hid to those who are need understanding.

You think your Jedi mind tricks can work on me?

I agree that Eve was chosen.

Again, no thanks and for the reasons previously stated.

One never lets facts get in the way of nuance.

You are as wise as you are subtle.

You relinquished the floor on a public forum. Well let me relinquish the floor for you. I couldn't even convince people that God chose Israel while employing a verse that said God chose Israel. You come and say God chose Israel and viola, everyone agrees. You are a whale of a nuancer. I wish I...

It certainly points us in the right direction. God chose Israel because of His promise to Abraham. He promised to make a great nation from Him. If God doesn't make Israel a great nation, how would His promise be kept? God chose Jonah to go to Ninevah. He didn't take no for an answer. Any...

I did agree with your assessment of the passage.

Had they not complied, God would have chosen someone else?

Finish yours and go to bed. It's a school night.

You use some fun words, but you break your side's rules. It is not kosher, according to them, to suggest someone doesn't understand, even in a nuanced way. I have no problem discussing election, or most topics, if I believe it can be helpful. I don't think this would be the case with you. Even...

Thanks. You are becoming a very useful engine, Thomas.

That's the advantage of being able to walk and chew gum at the same time. You wouldn't understand. Whoops. You wouldn't understand the nuance.

I haven't said anything about reprobation, nor made any attempt to tie the passage to reprobation. Perhaps that's why you didn't notice. I can't even get people to agree that the passage establishes that God chose Israel.

You are the one with the leash. Only post in a certain manner, where you deem posts should go, and what form they should take. It's laughable that the one who conditions and restricts how he is to be addressed is the one on a leash.