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    Unconditional love verses from God to us the people

    Prove it with explicit chapter and verses. And there you go conflating love and forgiveness again! Why are you UNABLE to focus on the subject of God's love, without bringing other subjects to bear upon his love? This dishonest tactic is your attempt to deflect the explicit love verses away...
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    Unconditional love verses from God to us the people

    So if the Last Adam, who is the Federal Head of all God's chosen people, was loved on the condition of his perfect, faithful, loyal obedience, and if this Last Adam is also God-incarnate -- the God-MAN, then how does the truth that you just conceded not apply to all mankind? Since the Father...
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    Unconditional love verses from God to us the people

    First to Studier: Of course, GWH is evasive. It appears that God has graciously "enabled" him to not believe the passage. (After all, GWH essentially said that God gives grace to all w/o exception to believe or NOT believe!) :rolleyes: For this reason, he cannot honestly address any of the...
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    Understanding God’s election

    You have very serious reading comp problem. Rom 9:6 is NOT explaining why Israel failed. Rather, it's explaining why God's plan of salvation (as revealed in his Holy Word) has not failed with respect to Israel! And this explanation follows on the heels of the great predestination/election...
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    Unconditional love verses from God to us the people

    You're talking out of both sides of your mouth again! Since when did you come to believe in the efficacy of God's saving grace? The four Johannine passages, AGAIN, have nothing to do with faith or forgiveness. Jesus was giving his disciple deep, profound insights into God's love. We both...
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    Unconditional love verses from God to us the people

    Mr. GWH sir, I have a question for you: Since you speak so glibly of this divine "omnilove", then this must mean that God loves evil as much as he does good, correct? God does love everything under the sun, right?
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    Unconditional love verses from God to us the people

    I would "thank you", except for the fact that you have given me no reason to! First, you couldn't define "unconditional". And then you just shrugged off the four Johnanaine passages I quoted out of the Gospel of John; for you didn't even attempt to reconcile your ill-conceived theory with...
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    Unconditional love verses from God to us the people

    I would "thank you", except for the fact that you have given me no reason to! First, you couldn't define "unconditional". And then you just shrugged off the four Johnanaine passages I quoted out of the Gospel of John; for you didn't even attempt to reconcile your ill-conceived theory with...
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    Unconditional love verses from God to us the people

    On the other hand, God's saving grace to believe the gospel is an unconditional New Covenant promise. But knowing you, you'll never be able to reconcile the Gospel demands with the unilateral New Covenant terms. Jesus, in those four Johnanaine passages I quoted yesterday, was talking strictly...
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    Unconditional love verses from God to us the people

    On the other hand, God's saving grace to believe the gospel is an unconditional New Covenant promise. But knowing you, you'll never be able to reconcile the Gospel demands with the unilateral New Covenant terms.
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    Unconditional love verses from God to us the people

    On the other hand, God's saving grace to believe the gospel is an unconditional New Covenant promise. But knowing you, you'll never be able to reconcile the Gospel demands with the unilateral New Covenant terms.
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    Unconditional love verses from God to us the people

    On the other hand, God's saving grace to believe the gospel is an unconditional New Covenant promise. But knowing you, you will never be able to reconcile the Gospel demands with the unilateral New Covenant terms.
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    Understanding God’s election

    Which in turn = UNCIRCUMCISED HEART. And no man can love God with such a heart which is why the uncircumcised LOVE the darkness....and their daddy the prince of darkness. Deut 30:1-6 30:1 When all these blessings and curses I have set before you come upon you and you take them to heart...
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    Unconditional love verses from God to us the people

    In other words, Jesus Christ is a liar! When he spoke of the nature of God's love in very plain, clear, precise terms He didn't know of what he spoke? So...since Jesus in your world is a liar (which you clearly imply) then who or what in scripture is the only truth-teller: Could it be your...
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    Unconditional love verses from God to us the people

    So...in your world the eisegetical method of interpretation is A-OK and Kool, even though scripture explicitly forbids adding our words into any text of scripture; but when I exegete a passage and point out where and how you have gone off the interpretive rails, I'm the one "Straining our...
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    Understanding God’s election

    What FWers conveniently overlook is the REASON why the "natural" or "ungodly" man resist. They resist because God has not done a work in their depraved, evil, reprobate hearts. Acts 7:51 51 "You stiff-necked people, with uncircumcised hearts and ears! You are just like your fathers: You...
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    Understanding God’s election

    More lies! There is no text in scripture that explicitly teaches that God draws or leads all w/o exception to Christ. In fact, if this were true, then all men w/o exception are indeed saved per Jn 17:2!