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everyone in this thread is already reborn. maybe we could discuss the thread topic

well Solomon did write what he wrote, and i don't have reason to believe it means the opposite of what it says. Christ says similar things in Matthew 26:24 & in Luke 17:2 but in the account of David -- So David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” And Nathan said to David, “The...

it can be caused by server load that the host can't handle. that could be the site being hosted with reduced bandwidth, or it could be a big drain on the available bandwidth from a variety of potential reasons, or it could be something else entirely. we used to only have this issue once in a...

yeah the server keeps crashing, it's been bad for a year but particularly the last couple weeks

perhaps more clearly put: of whom has it been said, they believed the gospel, but because they weren't baptized in H2O or didn't speak in tongues, their faith in Christ was made void?

@Ouch i forgive you. i wanted to give you the chance to display the fruit of the Spirit, that's all - but it seems in your preoccupation you did not understand what i was doing. i won't remind you of that offense anymore; consider it removed. :)

John's baptism was into repentance. the pharisees - whom John had specifically called out as needing to repent - having rejected this is tantamount to publicly refusing to repent. not entirely unlike our dear guest who still refuses to confess he has sinned against me with slander, hmm.

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absotively posilutely! i don't understand anyone who refuses to be baptized, who has believed. there's a fundamental disconnect. I can only assume it's ignorance someone who would rather talk about baptism than Christ, i similarly see grave doctrinal problems in. it's like Peter said when he...

this is a thread about the security/insecurity of salvation. what's to discuss is that - - but aunts and uncles love to let children play, while the parents groan about their bedtime ;)

and so we are, by His Word. Genesis 1:20 God said, "Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the firmament of the heavens." isn't He Wonderful?

not sure his brother would agree that was 'punishment' Ecclesiastes 4:1-3 Then I returned and considered all the oppression that is done under the sun: and look! The tears of the oppressed, but they have no comforter— on the side of their oppressors [there is] power, but they have no...

only poking fun. so, i suppose in balance i should give you a serious reply: imo no one should ever "seek" authority, not secular power nor church leadership. it's a calling not an ambition. 1 Cor. 7 is clear advice; if a married person comes to belief, they should not seek divorce but if...

lack of baptism never damned anyone. but unbelief condemns the whole world

so clear @Ouch are you seeing this? so then what does this tell us about whether the salvation He purchased for us is secure? ((security of salvation being the actual thread topic))

the church sadly isn't very different in that regard.

however it's not. the only way to get rid of our sins is what Christ did for us at the cross do you believe this?

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you mean the disclosing and the making known? i suppose because we all hold onto a hope that eventually a wind will lift away the fog, as dawn rises.