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  1. posthuman

    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    you are asking whether omniscient foreknowledge is causation? ima say no. no, it is not.
  2. posthuman

    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    how did i know this was my wonderful purple sister before i even looked :love::love::love:
  3. posthuman

    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    there is still the transfiguration, and in John 10:39, He walked right through a crowd of people actively trying to grab Him. to me that's even more amazing than walking through a wall into the upper room. i'm not personally completely convinced His sinless, physical body held any more power...
  4. posthuman

    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    a careful examination of Satan's deception of Woman reveals much subtle inference about the connection between free will and life, or, we might say, true existence (y) in a way, he convinced her that she doesn't truly have life unless she openly chooses to reject God. it's lies of course. but...
  5. posthuman

    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    i would say it's both spiritual and physical - that he began to physically die the moment he sinned ((as it was written, "dying" you shall die - - indicating a progression, a process over time)) the spiritual is immediate, but the immediacy of the physical takes time to manifest: a period of...
  6. posthuman

    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    forgive me it my not be so much a response to you as what occurs to me after reading what you have to add. as i understand - - tho that's necessarily foggy and i have had very little time for months now - - it isn't really 'generational curse' being dicussed here so much as an inheritance of...
  7. posthuman

    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    Sie irren sich. Sie hatten gefragt: so i asked you if you believe Romans 5:12 or not, because the topic of whether the tree of life exists only to heal death or not immediately preceded this step of our conversation. clearly the existence of sin preceded the fall of Woman and subsequent fall...
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    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    because i am discussing the Bible you believe i am unable to. that's rich :LOL: welcome to the BDF by the way. i have been here a looong time. i'll wait.
  9. posthuman

    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    thanks, i had forgotten this 1 Chronicles 21:1 Now Satan stood up against Israel, and moved David to number Israel. my point about James 1 stands: James 1:14 But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. David could not have been moved by Satan to sin if...
  10. posthuman

    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    i did not say that the only sinless human to ever walk this earth after the fall - - Jesus Christ - - began to physically die as soon as He was born. in fact i contend that He, unlike all of us, did not. but as for your contention, you need only examine your own hairbrush to discover your own...
  11. posthuman

    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    This answer depends nds on whether you presume the Tree of Life is intended to be an antidote for sin that did not exist in the world. a line of inquiry you should pursue is why Adam spent hours sewing fig life aves and hiding instead of going directly to this Tree of Life, when he knew death...
  12. posthuman

    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    the Spirit of God wrote: sin entered the world through one man. do you believe Him?
  13. posthuman

    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    are you talking about the same census, supposing Satan commanded David to take it, as though there is no evil in the heart of any man? James says we are tempted when our own evil desires are enticed, not when the enemy implants something foreign into us.
  14. posthuman

    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    little children believe what their Father tells them, even if they don't quite understand it. Romans 5:12 through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned our bodies begin to die immediately after being born. this was not the...
  15. posthuman

    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    why would Adam need "healing properties" before sin had entered the world?
  16. posthuman

    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    Awful lot of supposition when the scripture is clear that the plague which killed thousands of Israelites was because of David's sin in taking the census. for sure "all have sinned and are worthy of death" - - you can always find a reason to accuse if that's what you look for. but David - the...
  17. posthuman

    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    the soul, yes. but every body of flesh dies - it's written, it is appointed once for man to die. and we see the same for plants and all living souls: the body dies. and the wages of sin is death, and death entered the world through sin, through one man - even though one woman was the first in...